On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Paul Tagliamonte <paul...@debian.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 09:44:10AM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> > Florian Weimer has correctly pointed out that Oracle has decided to
> change the
> > BDB 6.0 license to AGPLv3 (
> https://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/bdb/2013-June/
> > 000056.html). This hasn't been reflected in release tarball (probably by
> > mistake), but since the AGPLv3 is not very friendly to downstream
> projects, we
> > (as the Debian project) need to take a decision.
>
> What? Wait, What? What?[1]
>
> The AGPL is a DFSG free FSF approved and OSI approved free software
> license? We made a decision, it's *free software* and fit for main.


apt-get is licensed GPLv2 and thus incompatible with AGPLv3.
cyrus-{imapd,sasl} has BSD-style license and thus incompatible with AGPLv3.
OpenLDAP has BSD-style (OpenLDAP) license and thus incompatible with AGPLv3.
subversion has Apache 2.0 license and thus incompatible with AGPLv3.

...do I have to even continue...?


> > My opinion is that this Oracle move just sent the Berkeley DB to
> oblivion, and
> > Berkeley DB will be less and less used (or replaced by something else).
>
> Sure. Software comes and goes. Why not let it happen, who cares, it's
> still free software.


I guess the maintainers of r-depends _care_!


>  > What we can do right now (more can apply):
> > [ ] Keep db5.3 for jessie
> > [ ] Keep db5.3 for jessie+
> > [ ] Keep db5.3 forever
> > [ ] Suck it and relicense the downstream software as appropriate
> > [ ] Block db6.0 and higher from entering Debian
> > [ ] Remove Berkeley DB support from jessie+
> > [ ] Remove Berkeley DB support from jessie++
> > [ ] Replace Berkeley DB with free alternative [*]
> > [ ] Somebody writes a BDB-compatible wrapper around the free
> alternative(s)
>   [ ] Do nothing because it's free software
>
> > dak rm -Rn -s unstable db-defaults db5.1 db5.3 > db-depends
>
> Again, why do you plan on removing free software from main due to a
> change in license?


I am not removing anything, have you read my email? This command was merely
used to generate list of r-depends of Berkeley DB.

But we cannot maintain db5.3 (or db5.1) forever if upstream declares it
dead.

O.
-- 
Ondřej Surý <ond...@sury.org>

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