Hey debian-legal,

I'm interested in getting the Spin model checker into debian. Back in 2005
there was some discussion here in [1]. At the time objections were raised
because of licensing issues.

Per the forwarded email below, as of January 2016 Gerard Holzmann has been
assigned copyright of the software by Lucent & has licensed spin 6.4.5
under 3-clause BSD [2].

Are there any additional legal hurdles to clear here before somebody could
move forward RE: packaging up spin for debian?

Cheers,
Tom

[1] "Bug#296369: ITP: spin -- Powerfull model checking and
softwareverification tool":
https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/02/msg00250.html
[2] http://spinroot.com/spin/whatispin.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Holzmann, Gerard J (3400) <gerard.j.holzm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 4:18 PM
Subject: SPIN license -- now BSD 3-Clause!
To: Tom Lee <m...@tomlee.co>


Hi Tom,

It took a while, but we've finally been able to release Spin under a more
standard open source license (the BSD 3-Clause license).
Lucent was willing to transfer all copyrights on the software to me, so
that I can do the new release.
Hopefully this will now remove the problems that existed before to make
Spin available more easily on Linux platforms (although I don't know how to
do such a release myself.)
The new version is on the spinroot website now (e.g.,
http://spinroot.com/spin/Src/ )

Very best wishes for the new year!

-g

------------------------------
*From:* Tom Lee [m...@tomlee.co]
*Sent:* Saturday, May 31, 2014 5:11 PM
*To:* Holzmann, Gerard J (3400)
*Subject:* Re: SPIN license

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Holzmann, Gerard J (3400) <
gerard.j.holzm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> Yeah I've heard the objections to the license. I'm not sure why that is
> because the license applies only to commercial use -- all other use is just
> free and requires no license.
>

I think Debian's objections in particular are basically just related to
their fairly strict definitions of what it means to be "free software". I'm
by no means a lawyer, but I can understand the concerns about "no license"
in particular -- supposedly copyright holders (I guess Alcatel/Lucent in
this case?) retain all rights by default so distribution etc. isn't allowed
without an explicit license to do so: http://choosealicense.com/no-license/


> But.... I've asked Lucent (now Alcatel/Lucent) if they'd be willing to
> release the software under a more generally accepted GPL license.  They're
> looking into this, but I haven't heard about progress since about
> February.  (I initiated that after I heard that they'd done the same for
> the plan9 software, which used to be distributed under a very similar
> commercial license as Spin has.)
>

Great news! Hope it all goes well.


> It is a bit annoying that we can't get package it more conveniently yet.
> Soon hopefully.
>

I'll be first in line to put a Debian package together when that happens. :)

Thanks for taking the time to get back to me.

Cheers,
Tom



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