Thanks for keeping us informed I, personally, appreciate it.

Just one question. What is stopping the Live team, which I am assuming you
now coordinate, just fixing the bugs that were filed against live-build and
concentrating on live-build rather than reinventing the wheel with
live-wrapper?

Cheers.
Michael.

On 15 December 2015 at 05:36, Iain R. Learmonth <i...@debian.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Following Daniel's retirement from the Debian Live project, a number of
> things
> have become orphaned. This includes both software projects and services
> that
> were previously provided by Daniel's server.
>
> You will have noticed that the live.debian.net service disappeared. The
> big
> things that people have had issues with are the live-build CGI frontend
> disappearing and the hosted copies of live-manual disappearing.
>
> We are currently in the process of setting up hosted copies of live-manual
> at:
>
>  http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/
>
> This is a work-in-progress and we ask that you are patient while we get
> this
> sorted out. We only really have the git repository and the Debian packages
> to
> go on, so we have to do a bit of figuring things out before we can get this
> working.
>
> If you'd like to track the progress with hosted copies of live-manual, you
> can
> do that on Debian bug #807954. (http://bugs.debian.org/807954)
>
> As for the live-build CGI frontend, this is not something that we are
> currently
> working on. I personally do not feel that it is critical to the mission of
> the
> Debian Live team, although I would support anyone that wanted to revive the
> service.
>
> You can find more details on this in Debian bug #807957. Please follow up
> there
> if you are interested. (http://bugs.debian.org/807957)
>
> Looking at packages maintained by the Debian Live team, there are a number
> of
> generic packages that are relevant to Debian live images in general, and
> then
> there are the live-build specific packages.
>
> In the first category are: live-boot, live-config and live-tools. We will
> be
> actively maintaining these packages going forward and ensuring that they
> remain
> usable by both live-build and live-wrapper for as long as live-build
> remains in
> the Debian archives.
>
> No one has yet come forward to take over as a technical lead for
> live-build.
> Daniel has removed himself as an uploader from this package. According to
> Debian Policy §5.6.3, this leaves the package technically orphaned.
>
> live-manual is also live-build specific, and while we do have people
> working on
> the documentation side of things, live-manual would disappear if
> live-build was
> to disappear. This package is also technically orphaned as per Policy
> §5.6.3
> although we expect an upload for this package to happen soon.
>
> live-wrapper is the area where I am going to be focussing the majority of
> my
> efforts within Debian Live and this will be the tool used to produce the
> official Debian live images when stretch is released. live-wrapper uses
> live-boot, live-config and live-tools and the aim will be to support the
> majority of the features that live-build supported. live-wrapper will
> however
> not be a drop-in replacement and there is definitely a case to be made for
> the
> continued development of live-build.
>
> The following should help you find the resources at their new locations
> where
> they have been moved from Daniel's server:
>
>  * Homepage: https://www.debian.org/CD/live
>  * Development Homepage: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-live/
>  * Development Documentation: https://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/
>  * Mailing List: debian-live@lists.debian.org
>  * Mailing List Archives: https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/
>  * IRC: #debian-live on OFTC
>  * Alioth Project: https://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-live/
>  * VCS Browser: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debian-live/
>
> Thanks,
> Iain.
>
> --
>

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