Hi Steffen,
Thanks a lot for these points. A few answers below:

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 3:09 PM Steffen Möller <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>  a) complete the mapping from Debian to bio.tools for the bioinformatics
> packages on that Excel sheet (state "n" that I mention below)
>

sure, this is definitely one of the next steps.

 b) add d/u/edam files for these packages, maybe autogenerate them from
> bio.tools if not already existing? We need to mention that in d/copyright.
>

Yes, autogenerating them from bio.tools will probably save a lot of time,
even if there is a manual check for each entry.


>  c) see how this can be fed back to bio.tools.
>

Yes, the idea is to consolidate through the github repository (
https://github.com/bio-tools/content). We can set up automated (or not)
processes to "cross-consolidate" debian and bio.tools metadata.

Would you be available in September to discuss/work on this?
Cheers,
Hervé


> >
> > Anyway, thanks a lot for your help, I am so very happy this is now up
> > and running! We should set up a plan to continue this work!
>
> m) I first looked on bio.tools for "blast", was unhappy with the result,
> then "ncbi blast", still unhappy.
>
> n) Ok, then "bowtie", which is what the debian/upstream/edam effort once
> started with and found https://bio.tools/bowtie2 with a reference to the
> Debian package on the lower-right. It is actually the first time I ever
> saw that but you likely have that for a while already and I was just
> unaware of it right?https://bio.tools/clustalo also worked. Nice.
>
> o) Infernal is a bit broken on the bio.tools side since it only refers
> to one of its executables.
>
> p) hmmer3 (https://bio.tools/hmmer3) does not have a ref to Debian.
>
> q) I then searched for "Debian" on bio.tools and found four entries.
> https://bio.tools/DNCON2 hat Debian in its description. The other three
> have a "DebianMed" collection tag. I was not aware of that.
>
> My personal ambition for bio.tools is that it substitutes most of what
> the Debian Med task pages are doing at the moment. But that is just what
> keeps me going, let's ignore this for now, just for the back of our minds.
>
> Concerning m-q - I happen to have stumbled across 5 very different
> problems/challenges. Only for packages that have reached the state "n" I
> think we shall proceed with edam annotation in Debian so we have a
> feedback loop. What would be the right thing to do for a Debian package
> maintainer / user who encounters a package in state m, o, p or q? This
> is an issue on github, I presume, but maybe you could come up with a bit
> more of an explicit instruction for the Debian folks how to report and
> where to make it all as easy as possible for bio.tools?
>
> Do you have opinions on a-c?
>
> Best,
>
> Steffen
>
>
> > n Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 5:15 PM Steffen Möller <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     This is great news, thank you for this, Hervé.
> >
> >     For now I think the most important bit is to have anything that is
> >     automated in some reasonable way. And then let's extend that over
> >     time.
> >     This should give edam annotation a particular boost, I tend to think.
> >
> >     You may be aware of an earlier email in which I described the Google
> >     Spreadsheet
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tApLhVqxRZ2VOuMH_aPUgFENQJfbLlB_PFH_Ah_q7hM/edit?usp=sharing
> >     <
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tApLhVqxRZ2VOuMH_aPUgFENQJfbLlB_PFH_Ah_q7hM/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> >     to provide an overview on what packages (rows) are important for
> which
> >     workflows (columns).
> >
> >     Now imagine what EDAM could do for us along those lines. @Jon,Matúš,
> >     should we possibly do some bulk EDAM annotation just for the
> >     packages on
> >     this "virus" tab? I suggest several iterations, like Topics first to
> >     provide the summary scope and I/O+File formats second for the
> >     individual
> >     executables once we know more about it all.
> >
> >     Best,
> >
> >     Steffen
> >
> >
> >     On 25.07.20 16:33, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >     > Hi Hervé
> >     >
> >     > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:43:08AM +0200, Hervé Ménager wrote:
> >     >> Hello Steffen, everyone,
> >     >> This is to let you know I am currently attending the BCC
> >     virtual hackathon (
> >     >> https://bcc2020.github.io/cofest/
> >     <https://bcc2020.github.io/cofest/>). With a couple of other
> >     people, I have
> >     >> been working on the Tools Platform Ecosystem (
> >     >> https://github.com/bio-tools/content/
> >     <https://github.com/bio-tools/content/>), continuing among other
> >     things the
> >     >> work we have been doing with you and others over the years to
> >     integrate
> >     >> metadata from Debian Med packages and bio.tools (among others).
> >     >> I have finalized a first working version of this work, but I
> >     took the
> >     >> liberty to modify the biotoolsConnect repository, esp. the
> >     script you have
> >     >> created Steffen, to correct a few things. I did so on github (
> >     >> https://github.com/bio-tools/biotoolsConnect
> >     <https://github.com/bio-tools/biotoolsConnect>) but I know this is
> >     a mirror
> >     >> to a repository on Salsa.
> >     > I do not think there is a mirror on Salsa.  I've just developed
> >     edam.sh
> >     > there as a *simple example*.  I admit I'm a bit astonished that
> >     > edamJson2biotools.py is parsing the output of this *example* script
> >     > instead of using the query directly inside the Python script.
> >     >
> >     >> If you need me to do something to synchronize
> >     >> with this other repository, please tell me (and tell me how).
> >     > I think there is no need to syncronise.  Its not used there.
> >     >
> >     >> Thanks a lot for your hard work on this subject.
> >     > You are welcome and thanks for your support
> >     >
> >     >      Andreas.
> >     >
> >
>

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