>>>>> "Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Neale> The temporary logo license expired 21 days ago. I'm not a
Neale> developer so I can't do it, but could someone please write
Neale> up a proposal for a permanent license? This is getting
Neale> ridiculous.
Joseph> Okay... Here goes:
Joseph> I propose that a new permanent license be given to the
Joseph> Debian Logo. While not a final draft certainly, I suggest
Joseph> the following license terms:
Joseph> * Logo may be used on "Official" CD-ROMs/jewel cases/etc
Ben> What is 'etc'? Can it be used on CD-ROMs of non-free or
Ben> non-US?
Joseph> I don't think we should allow it on those since they are
Joseph> not part of Debian.. However, if they included the
Joseph> contents of the main dist, I suppose they should be able
Joseph> to use it in advertising, just as long as Debian main is
Joseph> clearly not the same CD as non-free/non-us.
Sounds good. Since this is the point, I'd expressly say that
in the license, something like:
* Logo may be used on "Official" CD-ROMs/jewel cases/other media
provided the 'main' (not 'contrib', 'non-free', or 'non-US')
distribution of Debian is a significant and discrete part
of what the logo is used on.
Does this make any sense?
Joseph> It could be used elsewhere, just like not on the CD/jewel
Joseph> cases because they aren't Debian. The CDs which are
Joseph> Debian (main, mail+contrib, source for main and or
Joseph> contrib) are currently considered "Debian" so CDs which
Joseph> only have those things on them should be logo-able. If
Joseph> Debian is included in that form and there's a box or
Joseph> something, the box could have the logo, just as long as
Joseph> the Debian is distinguishable from the non-Debian.
What about a 6-CD set that contained hamm/main as one of the CDs?
Could they put the Debian logo on the outside CD jewel case?
(I'd say yes.) And to be anal, we shouldn't specify CD above;
DVDs may become common soon enough, so I've added 'other media'
above.
Joseph> * Logo may be used on a web page for commercial
Joseph> advertising purposes as long as Debian GNU/Linux makes up
Joseph> a significant part of what is being sold and that part is
Joseph> distinct from anything bundled with it. Ie, you could
Joseph> have i386 binary main CD bundled with ftp archive snapshot
Joseph> CDs, but you could not have parts of debian and slackware
Joseph> on the same CD without getting permission to do.
Ben> Can it be used in a print advertisement? IMHO, the 'on a web
Ben> page' is unnecessary and forbids television, print, and other
Ben> media. I'd say remove it.
Joseph> Okay, "Logo may be used for commercial advertising
Joseph> purposes provided that"..
Good.
Joseph> Hey, I didn't do TOO bad for about 3 minutes typing while
Joseph> offline and unable to look at the current license, no?
Sometimes it's best to get a fresh start. :)
Please make a new clean version of the license and put it up
on the Web somewhere.
Ben
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