Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Because the most concerned people (Wichert as #debian-devel's channel > founder and Branden as an operator) didn't want to participate in the > discussion, not even respond to simple questions that would have let us > continue the work.
Fact is that the last 2 weeks I've been busy with getting started at a new job and have only being doing the really necessary things outside of that. * OpenProjects is not a Debian resource, and I do not think Debian can claim to own a part of it * #debian-devel was created because #debian became too busy with non development related discussions, not because people wanted to a place for private discussions. * #debian-devel has always been a channel for Debian development. It never was a channel restricted to just Debian developers * having non-developers on #debian-devel has been a positive influence: + apsiring developers and others participate in good technical discussions + it is a very useful place to discuss topics that are broader then just debian. For example security problems, LSB topics, etc. * closing #debian-devel to just developers will not have a positive effect: + a number developers of will leave the channel + it will create an image that Debian is a closed organisation, something which we are already suffering from to some degree unfortunately + keeping a channel closed is a lot of work that will just consume valuable time + there has already been a #debian-private channel for a while so I do not see the need to make #debian-devel a copy of that I think we just need a simple etiquette for #debian-devel: * it is a channel for Debian developers, general users questions should be on #debian * keep in mind irc discussions are much like discussions on any public place, so don't talk about things you don't want others to know * #debian-devel is not a helpdesk. We don't mind helping with development issues, but do realize nobody is obliged to answer any questions. * try not to be offensive to people. A bad image is quickly created, but very hard to get rid off. * non-Debian developers we welcome as well, as long as they realize the topic is Debian development Wichert. -- _________________________________________________________________ /[EMAIL PROTECTED] This space intentionally left occupied \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D |