Em Seg, 2005-09-05 às 12:55 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu: > Daniel Ruoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skribis: > > Em Sex, 2005-09-02 =E0s 18:38 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu: > > > [...] I think charities should get some special consideration > > > because law enforces some level of openness and honour not > > > required of other organisations. > > > > I must remember that you're restrictive to UK law. > Did you mean that as agressively as I read it?
Sorry if it looked that way, it's just my bad english writing skills. > I'm not restrictive, but English law is what I'm most familiar > with, so if I generalise brokenly, or you use another place's > law, corrections or explanations are needed. Maybe I should > have named www.charitycommission.gov.uk before, for example. > Where do charities exist but not need any openness or honour? > > In Brasil, for > > instance, there is no such thing as "charity organization". > Then no groups would get special consideration from that > clause of my suggestion. What's the problem? The problem is using country-specific definitions for a supra-national organization. The rules applied by Debian to DUS should apply to any other organization in the world. > > So, a NGO (even a OCIP) is allowed to trade things, because the question > > (in the brazillian sense) is if there is profit or not. I mean, selling > > something for a value greater than the cost is *not* profit. Profit (in > > the brazillian sense) is the value that is shared among share-holders > > after the balance. > That sounds more like dividends than profits to me. Yes. A not-for-profit organization (at least in Brasil) don't share the profits among the share-holders, I mean, don't pay dividends. It can have, on the other hand, a super-avit (I don't know if this word exists in english) and reinvest it on projects that met the objectives of the organization. > It's debatable whether DUS's meals and booze-ups is paying members > dividends-in-kind or funding promotional events. If promotional events are in the list of objectives, then it's not "dividends-in-kind". But what I'm really trying to say is that this discussion should not be DUS-specific, but take into account other organizations around the world. daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]