On 05/12/13 at 10:53 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 17:45:22 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > 3) I was a bit surprised to see Martin's announcement that Hector > > was now a member of DSA, and his request to update the DSA delegation. > > I don't understand that. Hector has been doing a good amount of work as > part of the DSA team. After he has been a trainee for half a year, I > spoke with the other members (yes, that was done privatly, i need to > admit) if they also think that he should become a full member. I waited > until I heared back from all other members. > > > The usual process is that the appointement of delegates is usually > > discussed between the DPL and the team. Of course, for well-functioning > > teams that propose a new delegate who already went through a training > > process, that discussion is rather likely to be short. But that's not a > > valid reason to suppress it completely and make it sound like a > > public demand that the DPL does the required paperwork (I'm sure that > > it was not Martin's intent, but it's still worth clarifying, I think). > > My intent was to be as open as possible in the decission we have taken. > As Joerg wrote, I think uncontroversial changes to functional teams have > never been a problem for an update of a DPL delegation. > > Is the DSA team a non-functional team?
I wouldn't say that. I think that the general opinion inside the project is that it's functioning quite well, well, or very well, depending on who you ask. However, there has recently been a number of events where there seem to have been communication problems between DSA and the rest of project (service developers not engaging with DSA early during the design process; service developers engaging with DSA late, and then having difficult conversations; failed contact between service maintainers and DSA about service moves, ...). And as a result, several people gave up on hosting services they maintain inside Debian infrastructure. I think that it's important for Debian to provide an environment for experimenting ideas on infrastructure, designing new services, etc. Ideally, I think that this should happen on Debian infrastructure managed by DSA, because (1) it facilitates collaborative service maintenance; (2) it's better when people focus on what they are doing best, and we don't have a infinite supply of expert sysadmins. So I'm trying to see if something can be done to improve the current status. Lucas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131205104522.ga28...@xanadu.blop.info
