On 4/18/21 11:01 PM, Timo Röhling wrote: > * Stéphane Glondu <glo...@debian.org> [2021-04-16 17:12]: >> I would be glad to help :-) > Great! > >>> With all that being said and having made my case, I am open for any >>> reasonably secure solution (including Belenios) that we can agree on, >>> and I will help implement it if I can. >> And I am open to make changes in Belenios if needed. > I'd like to raise two questions for debate: > > 1. Do we want to retain the ability to vote openly? > > Obviously, open votes are more transparent, which is nice and very > appropriate for many technical issues that we might vote on. On the > other hand, most votes in Debian are DPL elections anyway.
I'd be very much for leaving the decision of open/close to our secretary, with most votes open, and the possibility for him to decide when it should be closed. I trust Kurt to do the right thing whenever a vote (like the RMS GR) needs to be closed. Otherwise, I very much prefer if most votes were staying open. > 2. How much are we committed to the current process that works > exclusively via email? > > Personally, I think that a structured HTML form is more accessible for > screen readers than pure text ballots, and you can still make the web > interface render nicely in a text browser such as Lynx or w3m. > > On the other hand, some people might have considerably less trust in > their web browser than their email client. Exactly. Web browsers are nasty beasts, with CVEs every month. I don't think the problem is the client though (even though I would prefer a signed mail, for the reasons Andrew wrote). The issue is probably more how the voting software is written, and it's general principles (verifiability with optional anonymity comes to mind). On 4/18/21 11:22 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Just my 0.02 - but we're all probably getting well ahead of ourselves > having just had two votes, maybe we should not be changing the system > immediately. I respectively don't agree. The process *will* be long until we can change the voting system, so let's start the thinking now. It's fine for most DDs not to be involved in at least the brain-storming phase. Maybe we'll need another GR when we're ready, but that's probably far in the future. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
