On 27/04/26 19:23, Christian Kastner wrote:
I got to know about the controversy myself just last week but I still don't have any demonizing opinion about them.Hi,On 2026-04-25 11:46, Aryan Karamtoth wrote:Framework seems to be interested in working with large distributions like Ubuntu and Fedora to collaborate with the distros [5] . I believe this could be the right opportunity for us to collaborate with a hardware company to provide a better out-of-the-box experience with Debian as Framework is very much interested in Linux.I wasn't aware of any controversy until some links were shared in this thread. On those, I don't yet have the full context, but from what I've seen so far they donated money to a bunch of open source projects, and two of them weren't vetted to certain standards. That's not good, but I don't think painting them as evil for that is fair . Framework sponsored a laptop for me two years ago for some dev work, and I was totally surprised by how much I liked it. It's commitment to Linux support was night and day to most other companies I'd experienced by then. Things just work with Debian. And it's designed to be perfectly serviceable, with some parts interchangeable even between hardware versions. Isn't this exactly what we want to see from hardware companies? How many others are doing that? Demonizing someone for a misstep when they are otherwise going in a direction we very much agree with seems very misguided? It would be far more helpful *to us* to engage constructively, so that the direction is maintained, and missteps avoided, and to demonstrate to other hardware companies that this is a direction worth taking. From this thread, the signal we are sending is entirely the opposite.
I think they've made a mistake by sponsoring the wrong people but I don't think Framework should be boycotted just because of that. They sponsor a lot of other projects too and Hyprland ended up being one of them [1]. Oh, looks like they sponsored some money towards DebConf too [1].
I still view them from my neutral point of perspective without engaging in the political drama and Framework, to me personally, is still fine. I don't see them politically supporting anybody or any ideology yet, they just sponsored a few open source projects out there but two of them turned out to have bad communities.
A poor decision on their end but maybe they were not considering the political stance of every open source project that they were sponsoring.
[1] https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships -- Regards, Aryan Karamtoth, Debian Maintainer "Sic Parvis Magna" - Sir Francis Drake Homepage: https://spaceports.in IRC: spaciouskarter78 Matrix: @spaciouskarter78:matrix.debian.social GPG Fingerprint: 7A7D 9308 2BD1 9BAF A83B 7E34 FE90 07B8 ED64 0421
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