Du schriebst in gmane.linux.debian.devel.release:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
>> It looks like the three open paths for resolution are:
>>
>> A) understand and restore the behaviour from Debian 10, that is, get X
>> to work in a degraded mode after installation. How it worked with Debian
>> 10 (and why it doesn't with Debian 11) is unknown.
>>
>> B) In the installer, detect that firmware-amd-graphics or
>> firmware-misc-nonfree should be installed, and either install it (?),
>> or redirect the user to the unofficial installer that includes them.
>>
>> C) Do nothing and document this in the release notes
>
> There is at least also
>
> D) Install (non-free) firmware and include it in official install media.
>
> I don't think degraded operation (just vesa, no sound, no wifi, known
> issues in microcode, ...) will continue to be an attractive option.
> So maybe we should revisit whether we should just include firmware; I
> wanted to suggest so at least for Bookworm.
+100
Let's postpone the tentative release date and use the time to create
a separate non-free/firmware section which contains the various
firmwares and amd64-microcode/intel-microcode and which gets included
in our default installation media.
There can still be special images for use in virtualisation, containers
and special hardware for those who care, but let's end this fallacy.
If the involved teams (FTP masters, d-i, debian-cd) feel they
need some educated opinion from the rest of the project, then by all
means let's settle this with a GR, but A-C are just wasted efforts
or provide a horrible user experience for no benefit at all.
Cheers,
Moritz
