On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 06:52:15PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > > - making sure openoffice does not get removed > > Shouldn't it be easier to get it removed and the reinstall it?
> Same arguments as earlier. > Problem with openoffice.org is that tasksel used to install > openoffice.org-bin which depended on openoffice.org. The -bin package no > longer exists in Etch. This probably should be fixed before the release > (by adding a dummy openoffice.org-bin package depending on > openoffice.org). No idea how complex this is when it comes to proper > Replaces/Conflicts and such. Well, it's painful in terms of build time certainly. I don't think Rene would be happy if we asked him for this. :) > It can however also be worked around with: > aptitude unmarkauto openoffice.org And that should be a no-op for users who don't have OOo installed, right, so this recommendation could be safely included in the release notes with no danger of side-effects or user confusion? > > > I do feel that this is probably the only method that is sure to still > > > work if users get themselves into problems with dependencies and > > > other methods try to remove half the system. > > > Maybe document the procedure on a wiki page? > > I'd rather have it described in the Release Notes, that is what gets > > shipped off with the CDs, relying on online documentation is not good > > (unless it's stuff not needed for the upgrade but just "for reference") > I don't think it is a good idea to fully document two different and > partially conflicting methods. My idea was to document it in the wiki and > link to that from the RN. However, from a translation viewpoint it may be > better to have it in the RN, but then I would suggest an appendix. Perhaps it would be a good idea, though, to use a wiki page to track this discussion, so we can see what the current upgrade path suggestions (with pros/cons) are and can refine them incrementally in response to user testing? I know I've had a hard time tracking this discussion. :/ > > > - apt-get install aptitude > > > - apt-get install gnome (also restores synaptic) > On a retest gnome was not removed. Not sure if I made a mistake the first > time or that anything was different. A bit scary though. > > Why use apt-get here and not aptitude to install gnome? Isn't it best > > to recommend the gnome task? > Because aptitude will want to remove all kinds of packages if you do that > (packages previously installed as deps but no longer needed). IMO it > would be better to wait until after the reboot to clean that up. Uhm? Do I understand that you're suggesting using apt-get instead of aptitude to *avoid* aptitude's automated handling of packages that one would want to have removed? That doesn't make sense to me. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]