On 2026-11-10 11:41:02 [+0200], Adrian Bunk wrote:
> Which means it doesn't help with the old question[1] whether the release 
> team commits to having the transition+toolchain freeze after April to
> accomodate 4.2 LTS in forky, or how else security support for OpenSSL
> in forky is planned.

My plan is still to go for LTS for the release.

> openssl/trixie is upstream supported until April 2030, and while I 
> understand that you hate me for mentioning that downgrading to 3.5
> would be an option for getting OpenSSL security support in forky,
> that would also be an option.

3.6 becomes slowly difficult since upstream dropped the ball already.
For the upcoming December release I can either ignores the security
patches or backport them myself…

Going back to 3.5 is not that simple because we have already software in
the archive using the additional symbols.

Also 4.0+ will not just have ESNI but likely more PQC resistance.

> 4.0 will be EOL before the release of forky and 4.1 in a year,[2]
> so being stuck with 4.1 would be a problem.
> 
> As already mentioned this is not a one-off issue, OpenSSL plans to start 
> their LTS branches every 2 years in April of our release years.[3]

This is sort of timed with the Debian cycle.

> My point here is that whatever the result may be, this needs an explicit 
> decision regarding whether OpenSSL 4.2 fits into the forky release 
> schedule before a transition to OpenSSL 4.

good that you mentioned that.

> 
> cu
> Adrian

Sebastian

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