Sorry for the multi-topic thread, feel free to split off subthreads. In order to get a particular mozilla package to install I upgraded my development system to the latest Woody archives. During the install I noticed several things.
1. The Debconf errors reported on another thread cropped up for me a couple of times during the install, and I swear that I was asked a set of debconf questions before the download, and then again before the install. Some of the questions were the same and some were different... Here's the error message I trapped: (in cleanup) Can't call method "close" on an undefined value at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/ConfModule.pm line 476 during global destruction. (in cleanup) Can't call method "DESTROY" on an undefined value at /usr/lib/perl5/Debian/DebConf/Question.pm line 251 during global destruction. 2. During the tetex upgrade I was surprised to see the following: texhash: Updating /usr/local/lib/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Updating /var/spool/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Done. Purging configuration files for latex2html ... texhash: Updating /usr/local/lib/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Updating /var/lib/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Updating /var/spool/texmf/ls-R... texhash: Done. Debian packages are NOT supposed to muck around in /usr/local!!!!! After the upgrade: After the upgrade I was able to install mozilla and get it to work. Over last night, we had a power outage that went on for some time, so I had to shut down my machine (the UPS will only last so long...). When I cranked it up this morning ... no X! I've been upgraded to version 4.0.2-1, and wdm gives the following error in its log: Config Error: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config:160 DefaultColorDepth shared/xfree86v3/config/display/default_depth doesn't exist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Default color depth expected I remember choosing 8 bit on a debconf screen, the question is, what do I put in ..../default_depth, and where do I find it. There is no path that contains xfree86v3: dwarf:/# find / -path xfree86v3 find: /proc/370/fd: Permission denied dwarf:/# BTW, I don't have any idea why root is being denied access to this proc file, but that isn't any where near the topic ;-) There doesn't seem to be any file named "default_depth" on my machine, so what will fix this? I had a working mozilla last night. One that could even log into my bank's secure services! This morning I can't even play spider ;-( All help on this one very much appreciated... Final Topic: This brings me, FINALLY ;-) to the real point of this posting. Mozilla, Progeny, and Debian. First, this is not a complaint to the Debian maintainer of Mozilla, I appreciate all he has said about the problem, and very much appreciate the amount of time he spent explaining the solution for me. However, I am left with a problem/quandry... Question 1: Is there any reason that we can't include progeny's version of Mozilla in Debian Woody until such time as our maintainer delivers his release. Consider this an interumn NMU to ease pressure on the Debian maintainer so he can resolve the required issues, while the rest of us can still apt-get a working version from the Debian archives. This is, after all, exactly the kind of "return to the Debian community" that Ian Murdock suggested would be available with Progeny. Question 2: What can I do to help the Debian Mozilla Maintainer get the packages into main? Last I heard there was some talk of "getting a lawyer to comment". While I can't speak to the need, or lack thereof, of a lawyer's input, when I was on the board of SPI there was a lawyer working for the corp. If he is still available, this would be exactly what SPI is around to help with. I'm afraid I've been out of all that or too long to know how to approach the problem, but I'd be willing to try if the DMM would like that sort of help. Me, I just want a working free browser in Debian that I can use to talk with my bank account ;-) Sorry for the longish posting, but it's been a while, and there _were_ a few bugs to report... Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (850) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- See www.linuxpress.com for more details _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]