On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 06:33:51PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 08:24:04AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > This really seems to depend on the video card. I have several types of > > Matrox > > cards here and X has NEVER, EVER been unstable. It has always been the > > application that took me out of X.
Is it a kind of commercial ? :> Seriously I DO consider changing my graphics card to something else - I just don't have time to wait for an update or a patch - and personally I'm too poor C programmer :/ to alter the sources myself. The problem is I'd done that already - I mean switching from an AGP S3 Trio3d/2x to that NVidia board. But both S3 and nvidia perform well under M$ (many hours of working under M$-Office and IE internet browsing) but than stiil why shouldn't it under linux ?!?? > > Here is a question: should an application be able to "take you out of > X"? Shouldn't X ideally be able to survive bad applications just like > Linux ... ? > Hmm... Exactly !!! I'll tell you that I use intensively the network features of XFree86 windowing features. It's because we've just bought a very fast dedicated pc - it's also running debian and it's main purpose is to serve the Mozilla browser as fast as possible :> or/and providing XSessions to X-terminals. Why am I telling you that? Because I think that this cast a little more light on the problem. In my opinion the X crashes are not determined by any application-crash in any way. Anyway the application sever can run completely different operating system such as FreeBSD (well it's still a UN*X :) so what have that to do with my X-server running under linux? And moreover - I would never be able to reproduce the crash under any circumstances. It's as likely running heavy Mozilla session as when editing a C source under a lightspeed VIM in a Konsole. No matter KDE, WMaker whatever. > BTW, on my Radeon, I have experienced X "going down" a couple of times, > usually related to playing a movie clip or something like that, smpeg > mostly. I do not, at this moment, recall anything else taking down X > recently. Though I think there was some other things in the past. (Even > then, it was never in "normal X use", it would either be 3D, or other > mode switching / fancy features...) > > Hugo van der Merwe > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

