On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Rick wrote: > Sorry. I was watching these vi msgs go back and forth and had to jump in and > make it worse. I think everyone should use whatever they want to. I agree > 100% about emacs. I have better things to do than to memorize all that crap. > That's why I use the GUI version, menu's.
Editors whould use keys, not mouse. I use both emacs and vi, so I can say: to edit with vi, you need the keys iaxX<ESC>"dd"u.(dot) and maybe (if you have a really dumb tty) hjkl. To change a config file, you don't need to use all the power of vi. Well, sometimes I change config files with ed, although I don't think of myself as one who *knows* ed. > I think the original reason for this endless thread was to discuss the best > editor for a base install. One of the points I tried to get across is that a > newbie won't be able to use any editor that isn't either similar to an M$ > editor (not edlin) or that doesn't have a menu of some kind, such as ae. When I saw Unix first time, I was taught vi. 5 minutes lesson + brief explanation of man(1). Put 5 lines explaining vi behaviour in the installation guide, and that will be enough. Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990.