[ I do not like this kind of discussion but I thing some things could be helpful to some people. Indeed, I have been using emacs for a long long time and I started to read this trhead because I would like to learn some things about vi. Perhaps I will stop writing in this thread. ]
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Emacs is powerful, but in vi the work is faster not only because the > editor is faster, but also because you don't have to move your fingers > off the letters. Neither do I. Even in X, I almost do not use the mouse. Indeed, inside a console or inside an xterm (emacs -nw) I could only use the mouse if I have done some non-standard configuration. Just don't use the mouse if you prefer. You can do everything without the mouse. > > I like [x]jed too. Indeed I use jedfor small editions. Besides, my .emacs, > > site-start.el and default.el load many many things and takes some seconds to > > start. > > Mine too. cc-mode, font-lock, etc... I use auto-load for almost everything. Font-lock is loaded the first time I use a mode with Font-lock capabilities. I think font-lock (and I use colors here) increases the readability. Get fvwm-mode (from fvwm-mode.el somewhere) for instance. IMHO, it is much more simple to edit fvwm configuration files using this mode. I think this mode was also helpfull when I was configuring apache since the configuration files syntax are not so different. BTW, use lazy-lock if you are concerned about font-lock CPU consuming. > So? I use pine, and emacs as the alternative editor. I use pine sometimes too. Sometimes I just use mail. I usually use Gnus inside emacs for reading and writing news and mail. I like to be able to score messages according to the subject, for instance. Those people who would not like to read this thread, for instance, could just underscore this thread. I can also score messages according to the author or according to strings present in the subject field. > Well, I use emacs for mail and programming, and vi for configs and > patches. Sometimes I use ed. If I have not started an emacs and I wanna do small edition I usually prefer an other editor too. Sometimes jed. Sometimes others. Emacs is good to be loaded all the time. Perhaps in my swap, if I am not using it. > Well, both vi and emacs have its own > purposes. I agree with you. > I don't like incremental search because it's slow. I sincerely disagree here. I sincerely do not see how typing 'monitor' and ENTER in a search field can be faster than typing just 'mon' when I am looking for the section monitor in my /etc/X11/XF86Config. > On my > good ol' 486 I have just tested in an 8M 486 DX2/66 and incremental search was faster than I could type. And I tried to be fast. >I used emacs only when I needed something really big. I used to do my LaTeX edition in my old 8M 386 DX/40 box using GNU Emacs with font-lock-mode. My file was 200Kbytes large. Sometimes, I was doing that with latex running in background... > Now I have a Pentium 133, but I'm too used to vi to forget it :) > > Vadik. > > -- > Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin > If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected > abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was > the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990. > -- Alair Pereira do Lago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair> Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .