_______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re[2]: Expelling David Cinege from the list From: David Neuer Date: 8/22/97 8:53 AM
I didn't mean to insult you David (well, maybe to tease a little). I just meant to use sarcasm to indicate my frustration with the degree to which this thread has taken over this mailing list. I strongly believe (as a Debian user) that most Debian users don't care about this issue at all. I also think that probably the majority of users would accept the reasons given for the change as being valid ones. Most importantly, however, I am sick of having to wade through these messages in my Mailbox. The Debian mailing lists frequently crash my mail reader at work. I don't mind this for mail that is informative and provides me with meaningful information that helps me as a Debian user, but if most of the messages are meaningless bickering, then it's not worth the hassle. Perhaps you should start a new list devoted to debating policy. Anyway, I hope this thread stops soon. Dave N. _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: Expelling David Cinege from the list From: "Dave Cinege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at Internet Date: 8/22/97 12:22 AM On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:54:36 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:34:29 -0400 (EDT), Dave Cinege wrote: >> >>>> Sidetracking the issue insults my intellegence. Fuck you. >>>> >>>Resorting to vulgarities on a public mailing list should get you bounced >>>from the list. Like Behan said, grow up. >> >>Then fuck you too. Bounce me. Weld you're power to stifle my 'bad' speech. > ^^^^ >>Dare you use your filter instead..... > >and in another post to the list: > >> >>There was no good reason for a corp to be formed. I kept quite. There was no > ^^^^^ >>good reason to put out an 'Official' cd (which hurt a lot of our CD-R guys), >>and I kept quite. Now for the most pethtic reason, the entire version control > ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ >>system (and quality of product, both perceived and actual) is at stake. Now I'm >>ventting my shit with full force. I see where this is leading. > ^^^^^^^^ > >I say we bump him not only to "stifle his bad speech," as he put it, but also >for his bad *spelling*. This type of spelling reflects poorly on the entire >Debian community. At a time when Debian and the Linux community as a whole is >doing such a great job of promoting the idea of free software, this could cast a >serious pall over the whole movement. Can people really expect quality software >from people who can't even spell simple English words like "wield," "quiet," >"pathetic" and "venting?" > >Imagine the arguments from the Windows NT and commercial Unix vendors: "No >wonder they insist on free software. They obviously didn't receive the type of >education that would allow them to get jobs which provided the income neccessary >to *purchase* software. Do you *really* want an operating system developed by >people like *this* to control your mission-critical computing needs, Mr. >Computer User?" > >Expanding on his own argument that having Debian incorporate will hurt the >distribution, I agree fully that having an actual organization with liability >for stabilizing releases can only hurt. I mean, who the hell is going to trust a >distribution that comes from an actual organized entity rather than some >collection of nameless developers? Not me! And as far as paying goes, great >free software is our (users') birthright. If the debian developers want to go >down in OS history, THEY SHOULD BEAR THE ENTIRE COSTS OF THE DISTRIBUTION AND >LIKE IT! Fame and immortality come at a high price (some might even say they >are priceless). > >However, I am much more concerned about the impact that bad spelling will have >on the distribution. Swearing will intimidate Debian's rivals, and should be >promoted wholeheartedly! But poor spelling will simply give them more ammo >against non-commercial software, and that's something we can't afford. > >Now that we are done discussing these weighty matters that profoundly affect the >average Linux user, can we have a little lighter subject matter? A little >comedy relief like helping users solve technical problems and get up and >running? > putz.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ Linux Router Project
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