Hi, >>"Alan" == Alan Eugene Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alan> No thank you. Well, there are other distributions -- red hat makes a fine OS, you know. I just sent you Debian policy. >> Most programs, even if they include <linux/something.h>, do Alan> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> not really depend on the version of the kernel, as long as the >> kernel versions are not too far off, they will work. And the >> headers provided in libc5-dev (and libc6-dev) are just that. How many programs you know depend on intimate knowledge of kernel headers? pcmcia, and oss are the only ones I know about. >> The solution is to separate out the two sets of header files: Alan> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ???????????? You really seem to have little knowledge of this subject, and do not seem to be able to follow the technica discussion (which, BTW, was endorsed by Linus, had you cared to read to the end) Alan> I, for one, applaud Bruce Perens's efforts to standardize Alan> various issues. libc6-dev is not part of the base system, and is not likely to be. So, Debian is going to be following a variation of the policy I mailed here. (The real policy for slink is slightly different, but only in implementation details). Alan> This is one that has continually been a sore point for me, Alan> standing in the way, between me and peaceful computing. Sorry. Alan> You are making some assumptions here. You are Alan> telling me that this is, after all, not really a standardizable Alan> solution, but that Debian will work most of the time, but not Alan> all the time, except for hackers who are alert enough to catch Alan> this and remember the required kludges. You evidently fail to grasp the subject at hand. I said no such thing. Alan> Congratulations on an ingeniously intricate, illusory and Alan> superfluous solution to what appears (at least to others who Alan> must compile the kernels)to be a trivial problem, or not a Alan> problem. What the hell does that have to do with compiling kernels (apart from pieces of crap like OSS)? The kernel is independent of the headers installed on the machine, and delibrately so. Since you do not understand what you are talking about, I think I have nothing further to say on this matter. Technical objects to Debian policy are always welcome, unreasoning rants shall be ignored. Good day. manoj -- ...Another writer again agreed with all my generalities, but said that as an inveterate skeptic I have closed my mind to the truth. Most notably I have ignored the evidence for an Earth that is six thousand years old. Well, I haven't ignored it; I considered the purported evidence and *then* rejected it. There is a difference, and this is a difference, we might say, between prejudice and postjudice. Prejudice is making a judgment before you have looked at the facts. Postjudice is making a judgment afterwards. Prejudice is terrible, in the sense that you commit injustices and you make serious mistakes. Postjudice is not terrible. You can't be perfect of course; you may make mistakes also. But it is permissible to make a judgment after you have examined the evidence. In some circles it is even encouraged. Carl Sagan, The Burden of Skepticism, Skeptical Enquirer, Vol. 12, pg. 46 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]