> and there they are, so what did I do wrong?
Nothing. A bug in pppd causes it to put the password in the log when using PAP even if you put a '\q' in front of it. Later versions of pppd fix this by adding the 'hide-password' option. Edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider and delete the 'debug' option. -- John Hasler This posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.