>>>>> "John" == John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

sorry for the delay in followup; Life is keeping me from chasing this
down. However, the problem[1] still exists. I'm running woody; apt-get
dist-upgraded as of this afternoon, which puts me at:

[jacobs in ~]-> dpkg --list | grep ppp
ii  ppp            2.3.11-1.1     Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon.

Rest of reply below:

  John> john s jacobs anderson writes:
  >> However, about the time of the ppp/ppp-pam suidregister thing,
  >> this behavior changed; giving the demand option now appears to
  >> require a fixed remote IP, at least according to man pppd...

  John> The man page is wrong.

Good to know; is a bug report needed?

  >> ...and actually sets that IP to something in the 10.n.n.n net...

  John> It sets the local IP address to 10.64.64.64 and the remote to
  John> 10.112.112.112 while the link is down, but these are dummies.
  John> They are replaced with the dynamic IP's when the link comes
  John> up.

Also good to know. 

However, as I said above, this is still broken. I checked ppp.log, and
found this slightly more informative error:

Feb 23 01:41:03 genehack pppd[1168]: Using interface ppp0
Feb 23 01:41:03 genehack pppd[1168]: Cannot determine ethernet address for 
proxy ARP
Feb 23 01:41:03 genehack pppd[1168]: local  IP address 10.64.64.64
Feb 23 01:41:03 genehack pppd[1168]: remote IP address 10.112.112.112
Feb 23 01:41:05 genehack pppd[1168]: read: Bad file descriptor(9)
Feb 23 01:41:05 genehack pppd[1168]: Exit.

That was after the following:
 (a) change /etc/ppp/peers/provider to use 'demand'
 (b) issue `pon && fetchmail`
 (c) wait for DNS timeout
 (d) tail /var/log/ppp.log

Suggestions as to what to do now? I'm relatively new to Debian; I'm
guessing a bug report is in order?

Thanks,
john.

Footnotes: 
[1]  Basically, dial-on-demand no longer works; a provider file that
     is otherwise identical, with only the 'demand' line commented
     out, does work. It used to work, apx. 3 weeks ago.

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