On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > dpkg -l | grep ximian > <purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah> > dpkg -l | grep helix > <purge everything listed -- apt-get --purge remove blah blah blah>
Minor point: you might want to make that "grep ximi" instead of "grep ximian", given that helix/ximian version numbers tend to be quite long, and "dpkg -l" offers no way to specify a field width. I (mostly) eliminated Ximian today, and, yes, there is a package or two that you'll miss with the complete "ximian". Sorry to hear that Simon's upgrade messed up. I actually did an "apt-get dist-upgrade" today, and it was very helpful in purging Ximian. It seems that a bunch of new 1.4 core packages made it into testing today, which upgraded from Ximian reasonably cleanly (it just took a couple of go-arounds with -f to make it work). Then, it was just a matter of manually replacing the rest of the Ximian packages. In most cases, "apt-get --purge remove" followed by "apt-get install" did the trick, but, if dependencies got in the way, I downloaded the deb's and "dpkg -i"'ed them (this would have definately been simplified by a --force-downgrade in apt-get...). Most of those went to equal versions, but a few (mostly the games) seemed to be downgrades. Oh well. I can't personally see much difference between gnome-xbill 1.2 and 1.0 <g>. As was pointed out in a previous thread, there are some useful gnome and gnome-related packages that have not yet made it into testing. For those packages, I kept the Ximian versions. Those packages include: abiword eog gnome-applets sawfish sawfish-gnome I also kept the necessary Ximian dependancies for those packages: libgnomeprint11 librep9 rep rep-doc rep-gtk rep-gtk-gnome I suppose that it would have been possible to eliminate these 11 packages, and replace them with versions from unstable, but then you start getting into bonobo dependancies...eek! I'm trying to keep my box a fairly clean testing installation, though I have installed a few packages from unstable. It's so hard to resist when it works so easily, but I decided to stay with the devil I know, in this case. So, those Ximian packages stay on, I've got local copies of them, and I no longer have spidermonkey.ximian.com in my sources.list. Oh, I also kept a few of the pretty theme packages that Ximian is so keen on (HeliX is still, by far, my favourite Sawfish theme <g>): sawfish-themes gtk-themes helix-sweetpill Anyways, it all seems to be working together quite nicely. Hope this helps out any other would-be Ximian-purgers out there. -- David Steinberg -o) Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v