on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 01:11:48PM +0700, Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> "Karsten M. Self" wrote:
> > Using kill -9 on a process means you may have to clean up the pieces.
> > Signals 15, 1, and 2 (TERM, HUP, and INT), are generally considered to
> > be polite requests to jobs to get the hell over it already, but to clean
> 
> I think Unix designers were having mixed feelings about "kill"; "kill
> -15", killing me softly... ha, just like a song, ...killing me softly
> with his words ...killing me softly with his songs...

Reminds me of what she said when....nevermind.

> > up on the way out.  SIGKILL is nonmaskable, and a process *can't*
> > perform cleanup or garbage collection even if it wants to.
> 
> I see; so the memory that once was used, wouldn't be returned back to
> the OS, right?

No.  Your memory's going to be released.  But your files might be
scrambled.  I would *not* 'kill -9' my mysqld server.

> > Most zombies are waiting for a resource to close.  Hitting the other end
> > of the resource (parent or child) generally does same.
> 
> So basically, if that happened, it just means that the other side was
> not yet exiting. (?)
> Really mean...

Something like.

> > This is a case where you may have to shut down.  Sometimes you can get
> > the buggers if you shoot at 'em enough ways though.
> 
> Whoa, I tried many times, kill -9, killall -9 <progname>, to no avail.

Look for parents/children.

The zombies themselves won't hurt anything unless they fill your process
table.

> BTW, if I unload the NIC driver (along with lo), would the daemon exit?
> I was thinking about it, but since I was remote logging in to the
> machine, rebooting was the only option.

Maybe.

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