On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:16 -0800, Bill wrote: > On Wed, 2007-14-03 at 12:35 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > Etch being release on April 2, 2007 (tentative per last nights > > announcements) is EONs ahead of Sarge's and Woody's release cycles. > > It'll only be about 4-5 months late. Consider less than 2 years for > > Etch. Sarge was HOW Long? And How long was Woody? I believe you'd have > > to go back to Slink to be only 4-5 months late. Or maybe farther back. > > This is good news. And it is NEWS! > > Release before the election is the best of all possible worlds. > > No I wasn't pushing for a deadline and Etch is the fruit of a vastly > improved process. My concern was that we would lapse into one of the > former situations. I guess it's been more a question of perception > than fact.
Let us go into the archive: Hamm released: July 24th, 1998 Slink released: March 9th, 1999 Potato released: August 14th, 2000 Woody released: July 19th, 2002 Sarge released: June 6th, 2005 Etch tentative release: April 2nd, 2007 And from what I can tell reading in the archive: Hamm was weeks late. Slink was a few months late. Potato was a few months late. Woody was quite late. Sarge was so late, that things happened, including: Ubuntu taking shape. Many Debian Developers becoming MIA or just abandoning Debian Hosting companies disallowing Debian as an available distro Other minor things having a bigger impact now Not to pick on Sarge though, many, many break-through items came about in Sarge, not least of which, the Installer was fantastically improved. Much package and software policy was clarified and improved upon. QA was expanded and improved in procedure. Discoveries of deficiencies that could only be changed Sarge+1. Automation of many critical services for the benefit of Debian's Infrastructure. Ubuntu benefiting from these changes. Eventually a two-way exchange between Debian and Ubuntu developed... many other things. So, now we come to Etch, many would like to get Debian back to a 9-12 month release schedule. It would be nice, but the new process might not allow for such to happen. For one thing the "freeze" is to long and some methods of getting things done have been "controversial" at best. So, as you can see, perception is indeed not related to fact with Debian's progress being reported by the Media that only pickup on the bad things. If they really reported fairly, things like this really wouldn't be appearing to happen suddenly. But as we all know, touchy feel good stories don't attract viewers or subscribers (or slashdotters or diggers or redditers or <insert favorite social networking site>) Cheers, muchly. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]