On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:08, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi Nigel, > > On Sun Sep 09, 2007 at 21:15:32 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > > This has got more than a joke now. We are being bombarded with s-x spam > > yet again. I can't send it to Spamcop because it will identify the list > > as the sender. > > True, and you will most probably also get kicked from the lists by us. > > > Come on Murphy, get your act together, get the sawn-off out of it's case, > > and filter these spammers off the list. One way or the other I couldn't > > care less how you do it. If their, what passes for brains end up > > splaterred over the nearest wall is no big deal to me. > > There might be two or more reasons why you get more spam since a couple > of day. One is, that since about a week or so we get drastic more spam > which also morphs that fast, that the self-learning filters can't adjust > that quickly. > > Another reason is that the listmasters did a drastic redesign of the > whole spamfilter of murphy.debian.org this weekend. Doing this required > also to drop and retrain all the dynamic filers we have, so you might > have seen a bit of more spam the last hours. That should self-regulate > the next couple of hours. > > > I've got bogofilter running on Kmail, but because of the high volume on > > the list, Debian-user is filtered before bogofilter has a go at the > > remaining stuff. Most of the pe-is size related stuff ends up in the > > trash, where it belongs, but I'm stuck with the spam that get's filtered > > into individual mailing boxes before bogofilter has a go at it. > > Actually you can be lucky that you are not subscribed to > lists.debian.org before the spam-filter. I needed to do that today, to > find some nasty errors in our new setup, which really sucked. Watching > your INBOX grow by ~50 Mails / min per Debian mailing list is not fun > at all. JFTR, read Joeys blog[1] to get some ideas on the numbers. > Currently about 99.5% of all incoming mail to lists.debian.org is > discarded before it gets delivered. On a bad day you might see perhaps > ~10% of the still delivered mail being spam, which means, that actually > only 0.05% of all incoming spam is being delivered to the lists, a rate > which i think is acceptable from the listmaster PoV. Even though we try > to do better every day. > > > Sorry if this sounds a bit sarcastic, but I'm feeling sarcastic at the > > moment, as I don't want this cr-p on my machine. > > > > I don't have a shotgun, or hunting rifle, but I'd be game for an > > organised shoot if the spammers were the targets. > > A thing every user can do is to bounce spam delivered to the lists to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] WOW, I've been here for years & that's the first time I recall seeing that. Thanks Martin!
> Best you use mutt's bounce-function or > Kmails redirect function for that, so the headers don't get modified, so > we can directly us that emails to train our filters to do better. > > And if you find we should add more or better rules to our spamfilter, > feel free to send patches for [2]. > > Greetings > > Martin, having his listmaster's hat on and being VERY tired, as the > listmasters had a quite productive weekend with nearly up to no sleep at > all. > > [1] http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200709091425 > [2] > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-listmaster/trunk/spamassassin_config/?rev=0& >sc=0 -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# man real-life > No manual entry for real-life -- John W. Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]