On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 12:54 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 03:24:28 -0700, Michael M. wrote: > > [...] > > > I found a few problems on my system (Lenny/testing) after I replaced fam > > with gamin: > > > > 1) Menus in OO.org took many seconds to open -- at least 15, perhaps > > 20. This was extremely irritating and made OO.org a pain to use. > > > > 2) The GNOME trash applet no longer updated to show when there were > > items in the trash. I could no longer empty the trash from the panel. > > Not such a big deal, but I typically have most windows on most desktops > > maximized so I don't usually make use of any icons on the desktop. So I > > found it convenient to empty the trash from the panel. > > > > 3) Nautilus was considerably slower to respond to any attempts to open > > a new window. The problem wasn't as severe as the problem with OO.org > > These seem to be pretty serious problems, worthy of being reported as > bugs. I cannot comment any further on these issues since I don't use > Gnome.
I wondered about that, but then I didn't know (heh, I almost typed "gnow") whether they were GNOME bugs, OO.org bugs, or gamin bugs. I never know what to do when it's the combination of packages that present a problem, rather than a specific package. > > Restoring fam and removing gamin put things back to normal. But the > > reason I installed gamin in the first place is that exaile requires it, > > so in the end I decided to remove a lot of GNOME and am using Openbox > > instead. OO.org works fine with gamin, as long as you aren't using it > > under GNOME. If you use it under GNOME, it appears you need fam, or > > will face some major irritation. I still use the GNOME panel, mainly > > because I love Tomboy and find a few other features of that panel > > appealing, but I no longer use the Trash applet nor the trash bin at > > all. I'm no longer using Nautilus, though it is still installed. > > I think it is unlikely that such obvious problems would go unnoticed by > the (Debian-)Gnome community. Could you be missing some recommended > packages? You could run > > aptitude search '!~i(~dgnome|~dgtk|~dopenoffice)~RBrecommends:~i' > > and check if anything suspicious turns up, for example something related > to gnome-vfs. (This search command should find all not installed > packages which have "gnome", "gtk" or "openoffice" in their description > and which would satisfy a currently unfulfilled recommendation of some > installed package.) I regularly audit the recommendations using aptitude. The only problem I could find was aptitude complaining about fam being uninstalled, which of course I already knew. In any case I've changed things all around again and have moved up to unstable. I used to think that one day I would find the *perfect* distro, configuration, and set of apps for me, but now I've realized that the whole thing is perpetually a work-in-progress. :-) -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]