On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:17:04AM -0400, Jeff Soules wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Eric > > 1. Every day, bring this drive in, plug it in, run this program, then take > > it > > home at night; or > > > > 2. Pay Amazon $3/mo and don't worry about it; > > > > and I bet over 80% of them choose #2. They'll say "The time it takes me to > > do > > that for one week is worth more than $3, let alone for the whole month!". > > The > > ones who choose #1 don't value their time enough, IMO. > > It depends on the amount of data you have. If you're a decent-sized > small business with a lot of databases to back up and you're pushing > 10 GB nightly, then it's more like $33/mo, assuming you never actually > have to use the backup. If you have to *use* the backup, your restore > process will be constrained to the speed of your internet connection, > which could result in some very significant downtime which may or may > not be acceptable for your business. > > Each way has advantages and disadvantages; there isn't a > one-size-fits-all for this.
For sure. But I don't have anyone pushing 10 GB nightly :-) It's just that people were telling me to go buy a hard drive for 150 MB/day, and I wanted to point out that for many people that's ridiculous. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:19:43AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > I worry about things the disappearance of which would destroy my > business. I trust Amazon more than a HD. You're free not to, but I've seen more HDs fail than I have Amazons. > Gah!!! > > Computers are for automation, not manual labor. Plug it in, click > an icon, and go about your business. When it's done, unplug and > bring home. > > That's 2 minutes of actual manual labor. Which, if you multiply it out, is more than $3. (2 minutes * $20/hour * ~20 days/month) / (60 minutes/hour) = $13.33 Uploading to a remote server is more automated (client doesn't even have to *think* about it), and for low amounts of data, is cheaper. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 05:29:56PM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > I guess you're right in what small business owners are doing, but IMHO > they are not valuing confidentiality of their data high enough. I > don't know which encryption standards are in use, but I doubt most > people even know about http://www.schneier.com/essay-198.html by Bruce > Schneier, let alone understand what he is saying. For the record, JungleDisk uses AES-256. My bigger worry with one client is that they refuse to use good passwords, despite my best advice. Oh, and I bet if I pointed out to them that the NSA might be able to get at their data, they'd tell me "If the NSA wants it they can have it!" It's mostly sales/accounting data. They probably wouldn't even care if their competitors got it. :-) > I say this being hit by a complete HW and data loss to a fire in '97. > I prefer keeping my data off-site and off-net. If off-net is a concern, then don't use Amazon. It's not a concern for me or any of my clients. Cheers, -- Eric Gerlach, Network Administrator Federation of Students University of Waterloo p: (519) 888-4567 x36329 e: egerl...@feds.uwaterloo.ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org