Dne, 13. 02. 2011 10:39:20 je Travis napisal(a):
sorry for using this email but i stopped helping linux years ago(i
still
donate tho) when the bug systems got outta wack super-geek only
usability
...
The Reportbug utility you get with a stock Debian/Gnome install is
absolutely newbie-friendly (even I can use it, which tells a lot).
any ways, do an install with b43 wireless card and don't feed it
firmware.
this breaks the network and then the updates and then the voltial
line in
apt sources.
The move towards a firmware-free kernel was quite prominently
advertised on Debian-related sites and in articles all over the
Internet. While it poses practical challenges to the average user, it
is welcomed as a move in the right direction by many Debian users, me
humbly included.
in other words
if someone attempts to install debian on a laptop its going to be a
bitch to
get working if they haven't used linux for years.
Agreed, Debian is somewhat messy to install without a working Internet
connection. It was the same with Lenny. If you want an out-of-the-box
Debian for Dummies, just install Ubuntu.
the tail-tell sign is, after the get there system installed synaptic
works
funny, but works-ish, and if they try apt-get <anything> it fails
with a
method error
sorry but i hate all linux's for what they've become ( i miss old
mandrake
7.2 ) and debian was the last hope, now i'm not so sure :-(,
automagic is
EVIL!
Admittedly, some changes have been for the worse, but several have been
for the better. Unfortunately, the Linux community never seems to quite
agree which is which ... ;)
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