On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 15:06:50 +0000 Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, whoever he is, he raises some valid questions. Such as - what > > logind are supposed to do? Why bother keeping unrelated projects in > > systemd git? > > He's a Gentoo developer who might be involved in OpenRC development > (he's not its Gentoo maintainer). > > logind is a replacement of ConsoleKit, which is now dead upstream (and > has been for one or two years).
OK. And why does one needed to use ConsoleKit? Seriously, I've never installed it and may miss something. > On my (Ubuntu) laptop: > > > [root@lenovo15]# loginctl list-sessions > SESSION UID USER SEAT > c1 124 dirmngr seat0 > c2 1000 th seat0 > > 2 sessions listed. > [root@lenovo15]# loginctl list-users > UID USER > 124 dirmngr > 1000 th > > 2 users listed. > [root@lenovo15]# loginctl list-seats > SEAT > seat0 > > 1 seats listed. Neat, but I can do the same and more with good old 'w'. > Its role is the tracking and management of user sessions. Now it gets better. How do I, say, kill a user session with systemd? Or logind tools for that matter? What about ssh logins? > That somehow > extends into power management and the first dependency of GNOME on > systemd (that I know of) was of the power module of > gnome-settings-daemon in GNOME 3.8. And what does that 'power module' do? Does it changes CPU frequency (that's kernel job btw, no userspace required)? Does it put a laptop to sleep (handled by acpid without external assistance usually)? > >> If the Ubuntu developers who've already split logind from systemd up > >> to v204 throw up their hands and say it can't be done for v205+, then > >> I'll believe it... > > > > Not that I'm in hurry too :) > > You might not be in a hurry but I'm sure that there are Debian users > and developers who'd like to see GNOME depend on logind rather than on > systemd. If that's means there will be less dependencies for GNOME, count me in. But I meant something different: I'm just a Debian user, not a DM or DD. I can replace init with anything they put in Debian archive, but on my hosts only. I cannot decide what will be put in the Debian archive, or what users will get by default. So, I wait till next Debian stable comes out, and then I'll see what they put there. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131105013206.22f2bca4798da1f108312...@gmail.com
