On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:18:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
| On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 18:51, Paul Johnson wrote:
| > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:34:43PM -0400, Travis Crump wrote:
| > > Not to mention the fact that I'd love to see a good definition of what 
| > > is 'normally' installed on a Linux machine.
| > 
| > Ohh, ooh!  I got it!  The kernel.  Everything after that comes
| > seperately.
| 
| Well, hmmm, *normally*, initd, libc6, bash & perl are also installed.
| Top, ps, tar, gzip, the contents of binutils & coreutils, heck, 
| *lots* of stuff are normally installed on every Linux system.
| 
| In fact, except on the smallest (i.e. floppy & embedded) systems,
| are these utils ever *not* installed?

Paul's point is that "linux" is just a kernel.  *Debian GNU/Linux* is
a combination of linux (a kernel) and all those apps and libraries you
listed.

Your point, before that, still stands (as I mentioned in a different
message):  complaining against *linux* isn't helpful because that's
not where the deficiency lies.  Instead the deficiency lies in
Nautilus or Konqueror (is GMC still alive?) and the issue should be
taken up with those tools.

-D

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