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On 06/08/2014 11:03 AM, Stephen Allen wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 09:57:39PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> 
>> Thierry de Coulon:
>>> 
>>> I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to
>>> aptitude - and I don't want to make mistakes...
>> 
>> In addition to the good advice regarding automatically installed
>> packages that has already been given I have one question: why do
>> you want to use aptitude? I used aptitude for a few years but
>> switched back to apt-get after the Release Notes of a release
>> recommended to use apt-get for distribution upgrades, not aptitude.
>> I have a lot less trouble now.
> 
> Actually 'apt-get' is recommended for major upgrades as in distro
> upgrades, but for day to day package mgmt, aptitude is still the
> recommended tool.
> 
> FWIW I use both, aptitude has more options. Never used ncurses
> aptitude though, can't stand it.

Likewise FWIW, I invariably use apt-get, because aptitude routinely
recommends dependency-resolution "solutions" which involve not doing
anything like what I requested - and indeed often involve removing the
very package I requested to be installed - whereas I've never seen any
such thing with apt-get.

apt-get may be less controllable and less "smart" than aptitude, but it
still seems to get things right on the first try most of the time,
whereas in my experience aptitude rarely seems to get things right even
by the 20th try - or, in the few cases where I've bothered to keep
saying "no, try to come up with some other solution" that far, the
200th.

Maybe my experience with aptitude is atypical - but it's been consistent
across three computers now, over the course of something like a decade,
give or take. If anything, it's gotten worse in more recent years.

Maybeit's possible to configure aptitude so that it doesn't do that...
but if so, I would think that configuration should be the default,
because as things stand it seems almost worse than useless for anything
but the simplest operations.

- --
   The Wanderer

Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny.

A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them.
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