Sven Joachim <svenj...@gmx.de> writes: > On 2014-09-07 02:30 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Slavko <li...@slavino.sk> writes: >> >>> Ahoj, >>> >>> Dňa Sat, 06 Sep 2014 02:08:47 +0200 lee <l...@yun.yagibdah.de> napísal: >>> >>>> Doug <dmcgarr...@optonline.net> writes: >>>> >>>> > It didn't need systemd before, so why should it need it now? >>>> >>>> Debian has decided to feature several init systems, so any dependency >>>> on an init system you're not using because you're using another one >>>> is a bug that needs to be reported and fixed. >>>> >>> >>> I see it in the same manner, and then i agree with you. I see there >>> some questions which need to be answered: >> >> I don't think they will fix the bug because: >> >> >> [~] aptitude why libsystemd-login0 >> i xfce4 Depends xfconf (>= 4.8.0) >> i A xfconf Depends dbus-x11 >> i A dbus-x11 Depends dbus >> i A dbus Depends libsystemd-login0 (>= 31) >> [~] >> >> >> They must fix dbus to be able to work without systemd first. So I guess >> we need to make a bug report against dbus because it must not depend on >> systemd for Debian to be able to support alternative init systems so >> that users aren't forced into systemd. > > Dbus depends on libsystemd-login0, not on systemd. It forces you to use > systemd as much as its dependency on libselinux1 forces you to turn on > selinux, i.e. not at all.
It forces you not to be able to keep your system free from systemd. >> The concept of free software has become a myth :( > > There is always Gentoo if libraries you consider useless bother you. > Binary distributions tend to enable all possibly useful features. How long will you be able to keep a Gentoo installation free from systemd? Supporting a variety of init systems cannot mean that features which have nothing to do with any of the init systems are simply disabled unless a particular one is used. -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87mwabjqcv....@yun.yagibdah.de
