On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:30:32 +0900 Joel Rees sent: <snip>
> Charlie, care to enlighten us? Thanks for your time with this. Joel I think you're right. I just didn't understand the way that the netinstall CD's work. The disk or rather the installer was too old. As I said, I had downloaded the "Jessie .iso" some time previous, I can't recall how long ago, but months would be the case, and the computer I was going to install with it came into my hands with a change of heart. Ubuntu was preferred after the owner had done some reading on the net which I always recommend. As I am all for empowering people, not needing to be relied on to do it all for them, as if I know what I'm doing. I tell people to read up about what they want me to do for them. I do it for free, so I don't want to be run around. So when this computer was to be loaded up, I thought I would use the netinstall.iso disks I downloaded then, because I had them on hand. Normally, I do as I ended up doing this time. * Use a stable netinstall.iso. * Load a minimal system, no packages other than to make it boot and then fill in the gaps. For myself, as I go along. For anyone else that wants a system like mine, everything that I think they will use and to make it look like mine. [which is pretty ordinary without any eye candy] [laughing] But some people like it like that as well. In this case I fell back to the old method, used the wheezy netinstall CD and on the first boot, get into the /etc/apt/sources.list, delete the CD entries and change everything wheezy to Jessie and get rid of things like wheezy update links and such. Then update, then upgrade, then dist-upgrade and then start, for anyone else, populating the system with packages. I teach them how to update and upgrade which they continue to do as testing and then when it's stable. They continue to use it till I read it's no longer supported and then I may have to jump in. I also have to jump in if something goes pear shaped in testing, in this case Jessie. The reason people stay with the one system through testing into stable is because that's what they do with windows. They just keep going till someone says, "you have to change that because it's a security risk". Oh yes, I recall there was another reason I tried to install with the Jessie this time. I thought that because Jessie was the testing system, I might not have to do a dist-upgrade all the time either? But I'm probably incorrect in that as well. I have a very slow satellite internet connection at home here as well, so most of the heavy download I do at our local community centre where I volunteer helping people with computers. Yes, you may laugh. But to the very young and the uneducated, because I can fix things, think I know something about computers. [laughing] But that connection is cable, ADSL2 200 metres from the exchange and works like quicksilver on a smooth metal plate. Apologies for the length of this. So I only asked because I thought that everything in the netinstall.iso was self contained till it hit the part where a mirror was sought, and then it would update and upgrade itself from that source? Obviously incorrect I see now. So sorry for the question. Oh yes, I didn't report a bug, because I don't know enough about Linux or Debian to know what I'm taking about. I don't know the terminology and I really don't know how anything works. I'm a lateral not linear thinker, so most of the time assume I'm doing the wrong thing, and usually am. After the years of using a linux system [because I couldn't afford a computer other than what people threw away, much less windows] mandrake, mandriver, redhat when it was free, fedora, slackware and finally Debian which I couldn't install the first 3 times in potato or woody? I joined the Debian list late, but learned much from various LUGS. Now you know everything. [laughing] Thanks again for your time. Please know it is appreciated. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *********************************************** A man is either free or he is not. There cannot be any apprenticeship for freedom. --Amiri Baraka *********************************************** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic ----------------------------------------------------- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141006171236.7dd0ae75@taogypsy