On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0700 > Patrick Bartek <nemomm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > After much vitriolic gnashing of teeth from those opposed to > > systemd, I wonder... What is a better alternative? > > * Nosh > * Runit > * Upstart > * S6 > * Probably more I don't know about.
OpenRC, God, and another one -- I can't recall the name -- come to mind. Been studying them all. Runit as a partial or full "drop-in" replacement for sysvinit seems promising. > > And it can't be sysvinit. > > > > Yes. Syvinit still works, but it is after all 20 years old. It's > > been patched and bolted onto and jury-rigged > > Nobody's arguing for sysvinit as a long term solution, for the exact > reasons you post above. Those of us who appeared to favor sysvinit > were saying "let's wait until we have something good." We also > pointed out the false choice of prematurely narrowing it to systemd, > Upstart or sysvinit. This I realize, but for some "something good" is never ever good enough to replace the old, the familiar, the comfortable. > Now of course, the systemd cabal will argue that we can't wait any > longer. My question to them is, why was sysvinit not a dire emergency > until Red Hat's systemd juggernaut came along, and then all of a > sudden we just couldn't wait? Doesn't GNOME3 now require systemd to work? GNOME has been the default desktop environment for Debian, Fedora, and Red Hat (and others) for a long time. I never much liked it or KDE. Resource hogs. Fedora went with GNOME3 as the default at 13, I think. They are now at 20. Went systemd with 15. I abandoned Fedora a couple years after 12 went EOL, and switched to Debian Wheezy with just a window manager. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141021184121.06d3c...@debian7.boseck208.net