2014/11/14 23:12 "Tanstaafl" <tansta...@libertytrek.org>: > > On 11/14/2014 5:26 AM, Andrei POPESCU <andreimpope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It was claimed that sysvinit was the default *and only* (emphasis not > > mine) init, and therefore no selection was needed, but now that there > > are several a selection suddenly is needed. > > I don't recall claiming that sysvinit was the *only* init, nor do I > recall anyone else making such a claim. > > I merely pointed out that it was the *default* for many, many years > (actual time unknown and googling didn't easily reveal it). > > > I was just pointing out that alternatives were indeed available, for > > quite some time, > > Yes, but obviously no one was switching often enough for any bugs to > allow for easy switching to be opened/scratched. > > My very simple point is and has been that, *because* the *default* init > system for debian has been sysvinit since anyone can apparently > remember, the very act of even *suggesting* that it be switched in > jessie to not only a *different*, but a (relatively) *very new* one, > should have invoked a very simple requirement - for which the > responsibility for implementation and maintenance would be on those > calling for the switch - to provide a means for easily switching back > and forth so that everyone else could easily test things, and > ultimately, after the release of jessie with the new default, provide a > means to easily choose the previous default installer at both update > *and* install time, and maintain such at *least* during the life of the > jessie (if not jessie+1). > > > it's just that maintainers and users of alternate inits did not yell > > at the sysvinit maintainers to implement the choice for them. > > And I would argue that the number of people who did switch was probably > miniscule, with respect to the entire debian user base.
And maybe we can tie some points together here: Those who have switched init systems without install-level support from the debian community have generally not made claims like, "It worked for me, so why should you complain if I try really hard to see that you end up switching, too, without having a chance to get ready, much less choose?" -- Joel Rees
