On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:05:49PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le 15/11/2014 20:24, Brian a écrit : > > On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 11:37:14 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > >> Brian wrote: > >>> On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 13:49:18 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Vi, 14 nov 14, 08:04:00, Marty wrote: > >>>>> By the same token systemd is a major waste with no real gain. It > >>>>> duplicates > >>>>> equivalent modular alternatives, and also requires unnecessary effort to > >>>>> repair damage from excessive coupling. > >>>> I challenge you to come up with a configuration that duplicates > >>>> systemd's features with a combination of other software. > >> That assumes that one needs or wants systemd's features. > > I rather think Andrei might not regard this as answering his challenge. > > (You also didn't say whether the link's picture made you chuckle :) ). > > > >> For some (many?) of us, systemd represents no gain, and significant > >> operational impact (time required to deal with changes). > > Fair enough, but working within the realities of a situation is also > > part of the deal. The deal for Jessie is systemd. This is not on a take > > it or leave basis; quite a lot of work has been put into ensuring the > > alternatives you want are there. > > > It isq : when you have bugs like > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762623 > Once said "oh it works with systemd", then no more activity on the bug, > nothing.
I would suggest to read the url you post. There was a message from the maintainer saying "sorry, i tought I answered, I already reported it to udev, please give more information on the bug". Then indeed, you didn't followed up. > That means that practically, systemd is de facto compulsory. Not the > default, the only way allowed. > > So it is take or leave. I think this conclusion is likely wrong and hasty, given the lack of activity is a result on waiting on more information from the reporter. -- l. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141116011301.gc22...@gmail.com
