----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 22:25
Subject: Re: GUI login screen.


> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
>
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Roberto Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 08:41
> >Subject: Re: GUI login screen.
> >
> >I do not dissagree on any point.  However it should be my choice.  Should
I
> >do something so stupid as download as root or read mail then I will be
the
> >one to pick up what pieces are left. I am sure you have heard of welcha
and
> >blaster, been there done that, they dont ask permission.  Maybe you dont
> >understand what I, and others,  want.  Idealy if the gui login screen
added
> >3 items it would solve a lot of problems and would not incur any security
> >risks.
> >1. Reboot (If I want to go to Windows)
> >2. Shutdown (If I want to go to bed)
> >3. Text mode.(If I want to do something as root)
> >
> >
>
> You can set Debian up to do this; Debian is just set up to not do this
> by default. You can always over-ride defaults, but Debian does not have
> the purpose of winning people over with trinkets; Debian is designed for
> stability, security, robustness, Freedom, ease of maintenance. What
> you're asking for is more of a feature found on single-user computers;
> Debian tends to be geared more toward multi-user computers.
>
> In other words; "it is your choice". But it's not the default.
>
> All you have to do is figure out how to over-ride the defaults. Since I
> usually don't use gdm or kdm, etc, I'm not familiar with where those
> things are set up. But looking in KDE real quick, I see there's a
> Control Panel, with a Login Manager control, that has a Sessions tab,
> that looks to be just what you're looking for. I suspect gdm and others
> have similar options.
>
> >Incidently Cntl-alt-del doesnt work from gnome. I expected it would.
> >
> >
>
> I believe you'll find that it doesn't work anywhere in X, not just
> Gnome. Unless of course you've reconfigured your window manager/etc for
> it to work. I have no idea where that setting might be.
>
> -- 
> Kent
>
Thank you at last a starting point.
Hoyt



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