On Tue 03 May 2016 at 07:51:29 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2016-05-03 12:08 (UTC+0100): > > >On Mon 02 May 2016 at 23:43:45 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >>thousands of mailing list subscribers. This list's subscribers can see in > >>the list posting rules that binary attachments are not to be expected unless > >>of nominal size, thus can feel safe their disk space won't be wasted, and > > > Avoid sending large attachments. > > >is the advice: > > > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips > says: > > "Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB."
Please keep up at the back. :) That statement has been dealt with on -user a day or so ago. It does not reflect reality on the lists today. > The functional gist of the entirety of both URLs includes keeping > submissions modest in size. Images attached virtually always violate that > precept. I do not know the size of the average screenshot but I can imagine it would exceed what Listmaster allows. Listmaster also ensures only modestly sized attachments sufficient for the list to function are sent to the list. > >Nothing about "binary". Nothing about "nominal". > > Binary is functionally implied. When was the last time you saw any software > user/help mailing list post arrive with an image attached that was not many > times 10KiB (10KiB is very roughly the average size of a debian-user mailing > list post), or an attachment that was not an image? IME it rarely happens. When did I last see a modestly sized image on -user? Yesterday. Non-image 400K attachments are regularly seen on some Debian lists. > Nominal in the context used means modest, something that wouldn't burden the > system by bloating an ordinary plain text email many orders of magnitude. Burdening the system is a consideration but so is enabling the work via the lists to be carried out. > >>internet bandwidth won't be wasted, on things a select few have interest in > >>or will be opening. It's little different than the waste that is HTML > > >Subscribing to a list means taking the rough with the smooth. > > It does not mean liking abuse or never doing anything to dissuade abuse. I hope you are not implying Listmaster likes, encourages or condones abuse. :)