On Tuesday 15 August 2017 15:23:44 Brian wrote: > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 14:48:50 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 14:00:50 Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:46:20 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 13:07:38 David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 11:23:41 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 07:33:53 Nicolas George wrote: > > > > > > > L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a écrit : > > > > > > > > If it's no longer part of the base system, then perhaps > > > > > > > > the system is too base? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please ellaborate. Why should ifconfig be part of the base > > > > > > > system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Because ip is a pain in the ass to make it run, and still > > > > > > gives grossly incomplete information? > > > > > > > > > > > > In 2 years, I have yet to get a full network report out of > > > > > > ip such as ifconfig gives. > > > > > > > > > > Does ip addr ; ip -s link not work for you? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > David. > > > > > > > > It could I suppose, but thats also an extra 4" of useless fluff > > > > on my high res screen. > > > > > > You really wanted to say "yes" to your problem of two years > > > standing being solved, didn't you? But it goes against the grain. > > > :) > > > > I would not go out on that limb and saw it off behind me, > > Deconstruction: I *can* get a full network report out of ip but am not > going to admit it. Instead, I'll throw some chaff around as a > diversion. > > > but if it > > had more labels on the output, it could be helpfull. For instance > > what does this line in its output for eth0 tell me, and where did it > > get those numbers? > > > > inet6 fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 scope link > > The same place ifconfig got them from, > > > Compared to the ifconfig eth0 output, that looks to be derived from > > its MAC address, but how is such a determination thats its a > > globally unique address determined? Anyone can cause a MAC address > > to be spoofed. I am doing it myself so that I can change routers > > without loseing my ipv4 address, registered at namecheap. > > Deconstruction: Look out! More chaff.
If you want to see it that way, I can't stop you, but I have a netgear router I can use as my gatekeeper since both are running dd-wrt, but the netgear is telling the whole world its a Buffalo NetFinity from the MAC address its using. So the possibility is there, whether you want to admit it or not is entirely up to you. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
