On Thursday 14 September 2017 11:55:34 Reco wrote:

>       Hi.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:19:45AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 14 Sep 2017 at 10:51:43 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Begin rant:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Since they without doubt have a backdoor for the snooping
> > > agencies, this exposes my mail to these people for 1000's of times
> > > longer (If I do it once a week for instance) compared to fetchmail
> > > pulling and deleting it every 3 minutes.
> >
> > Oh, I see. So if you can just get your emails in and out of the
> > ISP's system within three minutes, this will catch the snoopers
> > napping/ on coffee break/gossiping round the water cooler/however
> > the agency's monitors take their breaks. Do you have a similar
> > strategy for crossing toll bridges? Like climbing the piers and then
> > sprinting across, so avoiding the approaches where those pesky toll
> > booths are located.
>
> While it's a legitimate point, the better one would be the following:
>
> How can you be sure that deleting mail at your ISP server actually
> deletes it?
>
> It's very easy to setup mail delivery in such way that every e-mail is
> stored in two different places, first one for the users' IMAP, and
> second one is for … backup purposes, so to speak.
>
> Reco

Given todays $50/terrabyte of storage, it sure isn't the resource problem 
it was 10 years ago. So I'd expect its being done.  Scary ain't it.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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