On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 +0000 (UTC) David Griffith <d...@661.org> wrote:
> > Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove > libsystemd0 from a Debian 9 machine that's running sysvinit? The > ongoing presence of libsystemd0 has caused slowly-progressing trouble > with several machines of mine culminating in complete failure a > couple days ago. Initially I thought this was unrelated to systemd, > but now I tracked it down to systemd's remnants and the problem is > progressing much faster with freshly-installed machines. > > > -- > David Griffith > d...@661.org First, how exactly did you convert to sysvinit, etc? And what kind of trouble? I've been running Stretch with sysvinit for almost a year -- as a personal machine, not a server -- and have had absolutely NO problems. Here's the link I used: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_Stretch_installation I used the very first conversion steps, the simplest one, and none of the optional ones. No pinning. No third-party systemdless repos, etc. I still have systemd libraries including libsystemd0 for those apps that have systemd as a dependenciy. No problems. Totally removing systemd is a pain requiring third-party systemdless repos and keeping a wary eye out for problems. I did it a couple times as part of my experiments, and always had glitches. One thing did just occur to me: Are you using the GNOME desktop? I've heard stories about it and systemd. It is VERY dependent on it. I haven't used GNOME whatever version for about 7 years. I use only a window manager Openbox. B
