On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 3:24 AM Oliver Schode <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2019 23:11:42 -0400 > Kenneth Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Did also see the following two: > > >> > > >> * How Linux Works, 2nd Edition (Paperback); Brian Ward; 2015.. > > >> Incidentally references systemd as one of the many topics covered. > > >> > > > > > I'll look, but this will, likely not have the detail I need. > > Nope, probably not. I read it a couple of years ago and Brian's book > is huge, better still for a beginner I'd think. But if you're looking > for something that roughly makes up for systemd's man pages, on paper, > than this isn't it. I've been looking for one myself, no luck so far. > About the best I might mention at this point is "Linux in Action" by > David Clinton, Manning 2018, quite new. Be informed though it's more of > your typical sysadmin guide: very broad in subject, goes into archiving, > backups, hardening, webserver, devops, everything. Considering that, > it's not particularly large, hence once again often lacking the depth. > And then it doesn't have _a_ specific systemd part, or chapter; rather > it's kind of smeared all over the place, perhaps as you might expect, > a bit like systemd on Linux. ;) > Thanks. The other Plus, about "Linux in Action", is that it's recent. > > I'm afraid, eventually there's (as yet) no replacement for the online > manuals, and as drab as man pages can be, or whether you like systemd > or not, I'd say the docs are quite decent. Not least considering its > age. Almost overdone. If all free software was like that, we wouldn't > need to kill too many trees. > I've been going over those Man Pages now (especially Systemctl and systemd.*), and it's easy to get lost! > > Apart from that, and ongoing development, another hurdle could be that > systemd is just too Linux specific, really. One objection I'd like to add to the list is, "Systemd is not suited for old, low-powered Hardware". And one of my "Pet Projects", is using Linux (and preferably Debian and/or Devuan) to rehabilitate old Hardware. Here's a Bone for those reading this, who are "Anti SystemD": https://ungleich.ch/en-us/cms/blog/2019/05/20/linux-distros-without-systemd/ What inspired me to bring this up on *this* List, is their First Entry: Duvuan! (I plan to get personally involved in the Devuan Project, mainly to keep support for older Hardware, such as early i386 Processors, and other Platforms, such as Power PC Chips [I own a G4 iMac "Desk Lamp", with a bad hard drive, but otherwise good]). And, by the way, I am, likely one of, only a few, who considers himself "Neutral" on SystemD. In fact, one of my "many Mottoes" is, "Neutrality With Attitude"! :-) While even there clearly > centered on the Desktop and enterprise environment. So while a book on > the kernel is just about as relevant if you're doing Android, or Linux > embedded, systemd isn't. Not to mention there haven't been a lot of > titles on init scripting either. > Good Point. I *definitely* plan to purchase the Kernel book, recommended on an early part of this Thread. And I'm getting it for *much* *more*, than Systemd! (Another thing I want to Master, is building my own, personal Kernel, with Custom Options [not to mention small, because it would have, only the Drivers and/only Modules, actually needed for my Hardware]). Best wishes, > Oliver > Kenneth Parker http://eyeblinkuniverse.com (Follow this, and its accompanying BLOG, to find out more about me). Note that I consider the Eye Blink Universe to be an Open Source Universe.
