On 22/06/19 3:01 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 19 Jun 2019 at 04:23:15 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 19/06/19 4:12 AM, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Mon 17 Jun 2019 at 10:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
>>
>>>> But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily assign 
>>>> ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of the router, 
>>>> what if I have an address clash with someone on a satellite circuit in 
>>>> Ulan Bator.  How is that resolved, by unroutable address blocks such as 
>>>> 192.168.xx.xx is now?
>>>
>>> Seems a good reason not to bother setting up ipv6 local addresses
>>> until we (you and I) understand it and ever see ipv6 on this side
>>> of the modem. I'm not holding my breath.
>>
>> If you never try setting it up, when do you expect to understand it? And
>> I see IPv6 on my side of the modem; I suspect many others do too. I
>> expect you'll get it sooner or later.
> 
> What's more relevant to me is not when IPv6 is made availble to me, but
> when IPv4 is withdrawn. Until then, I have IPv6 disabled in the router.

Hmm. Waiting till IPv4 is turned off globally is way too long. You want
to be ready for the first IPv6-only site that you want to communicate
with, or which wants to communicate with you. It may be very soon, or
possibly have already happened - I don't know if people trying to send
me mail have failed due to my mail server not yet supporting IPv6. If
you're exclusively doing client-side stuff, then I guess at least you'll
be the first to know when something doesn't work :-) Is that when you
want to be turning it on and figuring out any issues?

> It really comes down to the cost/benefit ratio. Currently the benefit
> is almost zero, so any cost makes the ratio almost infinite.
> 
> Lastly, what do you understand by the word "understand"? I wouldn't
> claim to understand much of IPv4 as I've no need to. Judging by your
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/06/msg00554.html
> you're doing far more sophisticated things than I ever expect to do.
> I trust that by the time I might need IPv4, there'll be plenty of
> HOWTOs floating around for simple setups.

Fair enough. Maybe :-)

I don't claim to understand all of either IPv4 or IPv6 either. And most
of my learning has been due to some requirement. But it's been a long
time since I deliberately turned IPv6 off (IIRC); if something doesn't
work, that's something to learn about, not to disable, if I can help it.

Richard

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