On Sat, Jun 1, 2024, 23:50 Richmond <dnomh...@gmx.com> wrote:

> Richard <rrosn...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > A packages documentation is always your best friend: https://pypi.org
> > /project/idle/
> >
>
> Yes it makes it look easy there, but:
>
> import idle
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>   File ".local/pipx/shared/lib/python3.11/site-packages/idle.py", line 4,
> in <module>
>     from layout import *
> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'layout'
>
That's what I'm talking about. You wildly mix commands together that don't
go together. And whatever is off with your paths. Things of pipx installed
packages should be in .local/bin and .local/shared/pipx. At least on Debian
that's the default. No idea what you did.

>
> > Also, python script isn't a necessarily a standalone executable. And
> > also, you shouldn't just wildly mix pipx commands with pip commands
> > if you don't know what you are doing. Either create a venv with
> > python3 -m venv or use pipx, not both. Once created, stick to these
> > separate paths. And read the documentation of pipx while you're at
> > it. Sure, venvs are easy to handle, as you can just delete them and
> > start from scratch, but mixing commands without knowing what one is
> > doing is just a recipe for desaster.
> >
>
> I don't know what I am doing for sure. But I did not wildly mix, I just
> kept trying things until I found something which worked. Most things
> didn't, and still don't.
>
You are, your last comment is more than proof enough.

You should just remove everything you installed with pipx, create a
separate venv - without using pipx! - and solely work inside it. And don't
touch pipx for anything that's not meant as a standalone CLI  program, like
yt-dlp, speedtest and the sorts. Maybe that way you can't do that much
wrong.

At this point this is hardly a Debian related topic. You should first learn
more about Python venvs and their package managers.

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