On Tue, 2025-08-19 at 21:40 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Van Snyder composed on 2025-08-19 16:30 (UTC-0700): > > > MS says Windoze 11 isn't > > supported on Intel i5 > > I suspect this is inaccurate. What I believe may be that Win11 is not > supported on > the particular i5 tested for support.
I asked Dell about Win11 on Latitude E5470 and the reply was "Microsoft doesn't provide driver support" … "but many users report it works anyway," I decided to install Windoze 10. > > # inxi -SC > System: > Host: ab250 Kernel: 6.12.38+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 > Console: pty pts/0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie) > CPU: > Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-7500T bits: 64 type: MCP > cache: > L2: 1024 KiB > Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/3300 cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 > 4: 800 > # /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --help | tail -11 > Shared library search path: > (libraries located via /etc/ld.so.cache) > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu (system search path) > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu (system search path) > /lib (system search path) > /usr/lib (system search path) > > Subdirectories of glibc-hwcaps directories, in priority order: > x86-64-v4 > x86-64-v3 (supported, searched) > x86-64-v2 (supported, searched) > # > > # inxi -CS > System: > Host: hp750 Kernel: 6.12.41+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 > Console: pty pts/0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie) > CPU: > Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5 660 bits: 64 type: MT MCP > cache: > L2: 512 KiB > Speed (MHz): avg: 1200 min/max: 1200/3334 cores: 1: 1200 2: 1200 3: > 1200 > 4: 1200 > # /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --help | tail -11 > Shared library search path: > (libraries located via /etc/ld.so.cache) > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu (system search path) > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu (system search path) > /lib (system search path) > /usr/lib (system search path) > > Subdirectories of glibc-hwcaps directories, in priority order: > x86-64-v4 > x86-64-v3 > x86-64-v2 (supported, searched) > # > > # inxi -CS > System: > Host: k9msi Kernel: 6.12.41+deb13-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 > Desktop: TDE (Trinity) v: R14.1.5~[DEVELOPMENT] Distro: Debian > GNU/Linux > 13 (trixie) > CPU: > Info: dual core model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ bits: 64 type: MCP > cache: > L2: 1024 KiB > Speed (MHz): avg: 2587 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 2587 2: 2587 > root@k9msi:~# /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --help | tail -11 > Shared library search path: > (libraries located via /etc/ld.so.cache) > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu (system search path) > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu (system search path) > /lib (system search path) > /usr/lib (system search path) > > Subdirectories of glibc-hwcaps directories, in priority order: > x86-64-v4 > x86-64-v3 > x86-64-v2 > # > > Of the three installations above, the first two meet the v2 > "specification", but > not the third. In all likelihood, M$ does an equivalent check to what > is shown > resulting above from Trixie, and below from openSUSE Leap, to see > whether specific > CPU features are available. Leap 16.0 due in October requires v2 as a > minimum, > while SUSE 16 according to the following URL will require v3. > > <https://en.opensuse.org/X86-64_microarchitecture_levels> > > I imagine Win11's requirements are different from *SUSE's, but the > idea of > requiring specific CPU features is not. Whether any i5s would fail to > meet v2 I > have doubts, as I believe the first post-Core2Duo/Core2Quad "Core" > (e.g. i5-xxx) > CPUs from Intel provide the minimum features constituting v2, though > it could be > i5-2xxx or even i5-3xxx. The Pentium and Celeron chips in the i3/5/7- > 4xxx series > do not meet v3, while the 3/5/7 do. Maybe for Win11 the minimum is > stricter than v2. > > # inxi -CS > System: > Host: hp750 Kernel: 6.12.0-160000.19-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 > Console: pty pts/0 Distro: openSUSE Leap 16.0 Beta > CPU: > Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5 660 bits: 64 type: MT MCP > cache: > L2: 512 KiB > Speed (MHz): avg: 1200 min/max: 1200/3334 cores: 1: 1200 2: 1200 3: > 1200 > 4: 1200 > # /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --help | tail -11 > This program interpreter self-identifies as: /lib64/ld-linux-x86- > 64.so.2 > > Shared library search path: > (libraries located via /etc/ld.so.cache) > /lib64 (system search path) > /usr/lib64 (system search path) > > Subdirectories of glibc-hwcaps directories, in priority order: > x86-64-v4 > x86-64-v3 > x86-64-v2 (supported, searched) > # > > # inxi -CS > System: > Host: k9msi Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.60-default arch: x86_64 bits: > 64 > Console: pty pts/0 Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6 > CPU: > Info: dual core model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ bits: 64 type: MCP > cache: > L2: 1024 KiB > Speed (MHz): avg: 2587 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 2587 2: 2587 > k9msi:~ # /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 --help | tail -11 > This program interpreter self-identifies as: /lib64/ld-linux-x86- > 64.so.2 > > Shared library search path: > (libraries located via /etc/ld.so.cache) > /lib64 (system search path) > /usr/lib64 (system search path) > > Subdirectories of glibc-hwcaps directories, in priority order: > x86-64-v4 > x86-64-v3 > x86-64-v2 > # > > The i5 host hp750 would qualify to run Leap 16, but the Athlon X2 > host k9msi now > running Leap 15.6 won't be able to upgrade to 16, or install it > afresh. This kind > of limitation looms as a potential in other distros to come, such as > Forky, > somewhat like Trixie shed 32bit support. :(
