On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 at 03:18, Max Nikulin <[email protected]> wrote: > On 26/01/2026 5:01 am, David wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 at 18:01, D. R. Evans wrote:
> >> As the attempt to get everything working without using grub rescue > >> seems to be stalled (see my e-mail > >> <[email protected]> in another > >> sub-thread), > > > > If you want to reference other list messages, can you please do that by > > providing links into the list archive which can be found at for > > example: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2026/01/threads.html > > David, if you wish to open that message in a browser then you may easily > do it: > > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/?m=MESSAGE_ID > > Actually every message has a bit broken header with a link to the list > archive, see List-Archive. > > Having Message-ID, it is more convenient to open that message inside > mailer or in another web mailing list archive. Instead, your are > suggesting to use a link that is local to the lists.debian.org web site. > > There is even "mid:" URL scheme to make Message-ID links explicit. > > P.S. Usually I am trying to postpone replies unrelated to topic main > issue till it can be considered solved. This case the suggestion is a bit > controversial. Hi Max, Thanks for using a separate thread to discuss this. Here's an example link that I wrote recently in another message: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2026/01/msg00411.html If I click on that link, the Message-ID you prefer is provided in line 7 of the served page. So the Message-ID is available there for anyone who needs it. Here are the reasons why I am inclined to continue preferring the direct link to the archive: 1) It is human-readable, so it is clear and safe to click on. 2) Its format and use is consistent with links to other web sources. 3) It does not require special knowledge for any (eg newbie) reader to find the information, because everyone knows how to follow https links. 4) It works for readers who are not using a dedicated mail client. 5) It works for readers who are reading the archive in a web browser. 5) Sometimes the Message-ID search of the Debian mail archives fails to find messages, so I prefer to use a method that seems to always work. I don't use a dedicated mail client to participate here. I already make quite some effort to be a good citizen here and comply with email etiquette, while using the Gmail web interface. For example, I precompose all my messages using Vim to properly reflow and clean up quoted text. How much of an inconvenience is this for folks who do? I am open to changing this behaviour if people want to convince me that it is truly problematic. But optimisations are sometimes not universal.
