However, my opinion might the changing fast, given that nouveau crashed again an hour ago:
``` 180647.691193] nouveau 0000:0c:00.0: fifo: fault 00 [READ] at 000000010f210000 engine 00 [gr] client 05 [GPC0/PE_1] reason 00 [PDE] on channel 7 [00ff55c000 gnome-shell[2390]] [180647.691203] nouveau 0000:0c:00.0: fifo:000000:0007:[gnome-shell[2390]] rc scheduled [180647.691207] nouveau 0000:0c:00.0: fifo:000000: rc scheduled [180647.691215] nouveau 0000:0c:00.0: fifo:000000:0007:0007:[gnome-shell[2390]] errored - disabling channel [180647.691219] nouveau 0000:0c:00.0: Xorg[2277]: channel 7 killed! [180647.705504] show_signal_msg: 46 callbacks suppressed [180647.705506] gnome-shell[2390]: segfault at 565800000000 ip 00007f800dc42e3d sp 00007ffddcd54880 error 4 in libgallium-26.1.2-1.so[c42e3d,7f800d0e2000+19ab000] likely on CPU 22 (core 6, socket 0) [180647.705514] Code: 24 48 8b 14 24 4c 8d 05 09 81 e8 00 be 01 00 00 00 49 8b 5c 24 08 49 8b 6c 24 10 48 8d 04 80 45 8b 0c 24 48 8b 3d 53 93 09 02 <4c> 8b 2c c2 48 8d 04 2b 48 8d 15 0c 54 f0 00 4d 8b 75 28 50 48 8d ``` Cheers! On Thu, Jul 2, 2026 at 5:54 PM Boyan Penkov <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's the thing -- I'm on stable-bpo, which has linux 7.0, and the > module did not compile out of the gate for me when I tried the update. > > Either way, I'd rather anticipate the problem of getting off > nvidia-driver now on this machine. > > Cheers! > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2026 at 1:50 AM Alexander V. Makartsev <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On 7/1/26 06:30, Boyan Penkov wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 4:44 PM Alexander V. Makartsev > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 7/1/26 00:12, Boyan Penkov wrote: > > > > Hello folks, > > > > I saw another issue that seems to point to mesa and nouveau, > > > > Is there a specific reason to use nouveau driver? > > It always performed like a Proof-of-Concept for me, lacking in hardware > > support and having stability issues. > > Your VGA (Quadro K2200 is it?) is supported by proprietary Nvidia driver, > > so my suggestion is to install it from Debian repo and see if your > > stability issues go away. > > This way you will also check if VGA itself is working fine and doesn't have > > any hardware defects, which could be hidden and be the source of sporadic > > stability issues. > > > > Hello Alexander -- yes, fair point, and I don't know how > > unconventional my decision is here, but this card is getting > > increasingly old, barely supported by the official driver, > > > > It is either supported or not. It looks like [1] the version 580.xx will be > > the final version for your VGA. > > Version 550.xx, which is available for Debian stable [2], supports it. > > If you are on Trixie and use kernel version 6.12, then nvidia-driver > > version 550.xx should give you the time until the next Debian release, > > which is usually happen in two years. > > > > and I don't > > want to have to mess with guessing which Nvidia driver update will > > finally fail to boot period > > > > If something will happen with the new 6.12.xx kernel update and > > nvidia-driver DKMS module would fail to compile, you will know about it > > from the console output. > > Even if you ignore the errors and reboot to the black screen on tty7, you > > will still have access to tty1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) console and the way to sort it > > out. > > > > (https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#data-center-d13), so I > > am steering away from nvidia-driver. > > > > So my guiding light here is for this machine, forget the proprietary > > driver and use the FOSS one, but this seems to have shot me in the > > foot... > > > > The choice is yours of course, but getting a stable and performant system > > for at least two years, until the next Debian stable release, seems like a > > no-brainer to me. > > > > > > [1] https://www.nvidia.com/en-eu/drivers/details/273196/ > > [2] https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_13_.22Trixie.22 > > > > -- > > > > With kindest regards, Alexander. > > > > Debian - The universal operating system > > https://www.debian.org > > > > -- > Boyan Penkov -- Boyan Penkov
