On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 02:49:29AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:32:59PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Monday 25 September 2006 05:11, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > Baring objection, I plan on calling for a vote with a suggested balot > > > containing only this option in a few days (no later than 09-27).[1] > > > [The Secretary, of course, can override this suggested ballot.] > > > I strongly object to separating this proposal out and calling for a vote > > without any alternative proposals or amendments, for the foolowing reasons: > > I agree with Don. If this proposal is going to go to a vote, it should go > to a vote separately from the votes about exceptions, so that we can get a > clear answer to the exception question without the outcome being tainted by > either voter confusion leading to strategic voting, or orthogonal statements > that are widely supported by the community but which tell us nothing about > what we should do for etch. > > > 2) Without any alternatives, a vote on this proposal will be based purely > > on > > theory and ideals, without any discussion on the practical implications, > > for example on the usability of the Debian installation system for users > > with hardware that depends on sourceless firmware. > > > 3) If the proposal is voted on on it's own, it is my belief that the vote > > will be heavily biassed towards accepting it. The reason for this is that > > for developers who have not followed the discussion on d-vote, this > > proposal will seem fairly innocent and the ideals it promotes are noble. > > Without a counterweight that shows the practical implications people will > > be inclined to support it without thoinking to much about it. > > Neither of which matter, because having a vote on Don's proposal does not, > procedurally speaking, prevent or delay us from moving forward with the > (IMHO more important) vote on the question of an exception for etch.
So, you also agree that we need to : 1) first vote on the exception for etch. 2) in a second phase vote for what to do with non-free firmware ? Or hold the votes simultaneously. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]