I think it's worth one more response to say that I simply do not agree that this problem is somehow horribly embarassing, unexpected, or a sign of a fundamental deficiency in the Debian project. There are other things that *are* signs of fundamental deficiencies in the project, but I don't think this is one of them.
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, you don't believe in solving the problem which is causing the noise > in the first place ? I don't believe it's possible to solve it in the way that would satisfy everyone and thereby eliminate the noise without fundamentally changing human nature or brainwashing people. > Or maybe you do not believe Debian is capable of growing up, and find an > answer to such situations which don't deal with shoting up one party ? This isn't growing up, nor is it a lack of maturity. These aren't problems that are somehow unusually common in Debian because Debian doesn't have social maturity. These are the sorts of problems I've seen in every workplace or open source project that I've been in, given the presence of personality conflicts (which eventually always happen when enough people are involved), and there usually isn't a solution. Someone in a position of power makes a decision that is often more or less arbitrary and people either decide to live with it or leave. Around that process, there is inevitably a ton of noise, but it always comes down to the same thing in the end. The difference in a professional workplace is that the people in authority aren't shy to make decisions, make them much earlier and faster, and enforce them in a considerably more draconian fashion than Debian does. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
