----- "Peter Palfrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> c) such firmware can and should be part of our official installation media.

We've seen a trend towards organizations building on Debian as a foundation for 
various special purpose distributions. Debian adds a lot of value as a starting 
point precisely because of our commitment to a completely Free Software 
oriented process. I think its safe to say that our model forced Novell and Red 
Hat to both create parallel programs (OpenSUSE, Fedora) to match the influence 
of Debian.

Extending on this trend towards distributors, maybe we should not be overly 
obsessed with the Debian "reference platform" running on every piece of 
equipment under the stars. If we accept that proprietary drivers, source and 
binaries are indispensable for a "retail" quality product then I think it would 
be better for us to promote "value added" distributions from other groups than 
to compromise our core policies. In the end, as we've seen with Ubuntu, 
second-tier distributors can *vastly increase* the market share of our 
packaging rather than diminishing it.

I can't say whether this distribution process would take the form of an 
automated way to fetch proprietary apt-sources, a catalog of value-added ISO 
images or something completely different. I do think it would be more natural 
for us to rely on partners to fulfill this role because it would be more 
flexible going forward. Part of the process could be to establish a new set of 
policies for distributors to follow if they want to be recognized as "Debian 
Compatible(tm)". Major partners like Ubuntu, Mepis and Knoppix could help us 
work out some ground rules and maybe large commercial users like Hewlett 
Packard could give us some perspective on how their internal packages could fit 
into that sort of scheme.

-- 
Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315


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